Analogue systems

You know what I REALLY like about Bob's letter?  He spoke highly of
Synth.com.  It's not so much he spoke specifically about them, but he
complimented a competitor.  I wish more manufacturers did this. It REALLY
bothers me when they start taking jabs at each another's methods and
conventions.  We are all in this (little) boat together!  Obviously Bob
realizes this and he elected to be constructive, courteous and professional.

Whoo-yah to Bob.  He shall be spoken of as 'King Bob' within the Grenader
household this day.  Good form, my friend and I'll see ya at Namm.

The pint's on you this year.

- Peter Grenader



levka0 wrote:

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> I have recently ordered 3.5 mm patch cables from A.Sys. and I can
> recommend them highly. They are well constructed, and are available
> in practical lengths and colours. They compare quite favourable with
> other brands.
> They have proven very reliable in my A.Sys., A.Sol., Doepfer, Blacet
> and other (semi-)modular systems, without any issues.
> 
> --- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, "sweathog2121"
> <sweathog2121@y...> wrote:
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>> Maybe this will end doubt about 1/8 (3.5mm) jacks in general.  The
> following is a 
>> response to an Email I sent to AS (which is at the bottom of the
> page).  I might also add
>> that Bob responded very quickly (only took about 1 hour to get a
> response I believe):
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>> Hello Beau
>>                  First of all thank you for considering us as an
> option for
>> your first modular purchase.
>> To give you a brief history of mini jack problems this is what we
> have
>> encountered.
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>> We first started using a cliff socket part number CL13845 which is
> a 5.5
>> version of the CL13844 5.0 that Dieter used in his system.If our
> patch cord
>> were used there was minimum problems but some users were buying in
> or making
>> their own cables with heavy metal jack plugs which put a strain on
> the
>> sockets causing the intermittent problems which the A100 was having
> issues
>> with.
>> I contacted the socket manufacturer Cliff and informed them that we
> were
>> experiencing a small but nevertheless, important to our users,
> contact
>> problem.
>> Cliff sent their senior engineer down to our workshop and he
> identified the
>> problem from their manufacturing side and came up with a new socket
> for us
>> (still pcb mounted which is what we wanted) and with this and custom
>> designed patchcords to fit exactly we have had no problems that we
> are aware
>> of.
>> There is a British band which you may or may not know about called
> Radiohead
>> who tour with 3 x 8000 and an 8500 system plus numerous Apprentice
> and
>> Sorceror systems.The only time they have had problems was by their
> own
>> admittance when they bought in different patch cords which were
> like fishing
>> weights and that obviously was to much ,but when we recommended our
> new
>> length patch cords they have had no problems during 2 world tours.I
> believe
>> your own U.S.A band Nine Inch Nails are about to tour with our gear
> live as
>> well as Sigur Ros from Iceland.
>> We informed Dieter of the new socket to be fair to him and not take
> an
>> obvious advantage so the A100 should be clear of any problems as
> well as
>> long as the correct patch cords are used.
>> If you're going to Namm in a few weeks time come to the Big City
> Music booth
>> and try for your self.
>> I have never heard of low level noise problems on forums or from
>> customers,without naming names we have had high praise from top U.K
> London
>> based producers, on how quiet are systems are, quietness is
> also  mentioned
>> in the review for the system 1 from what I remember.
>> If the forum that has this is on a competitors website and it is
> over 3
>> years old then it is there as a negative swipe at Doepfer and by
> default
>> ours.
>> I do not think Dieter would ever condone such negative posts on his
> Yahoo
>> Group just as we would not.
>> I have seen and played for a very short time a large
> Synthesizer.com system
>> in Belgium last month and I was very impressed.I think which ever
> one you
>> choose you will not be disappointed.
>> You may post this response if you wish which hopefully will allay
> the fears
>> of any potential Analogue Systems/Doepfer customers.
>> If you ring Roger at Big City Music in L.A he will give you a frank
> overview
>> on all modulars as he has vintage and modern and has sold very good
> amounts
>> of our systems and modules to satisfied U.S customers.
>> The only time you usually find any bad press for most manufacturers
> is when
>> modules are swapped around without any thought to power supply
> issues and
>> any modifications.
>> We have a system here which has been stock from day one and it has
> never
>> failed and it a very big!!
>> 
>>                                    Best Wishes
>> 
>>                                   Bob Williams
>> 
>> 
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>>> To whom it may concern:
>>> I am in the ever-so painful time of researching which modular
> synthesizer
>> (my first analog synthesizer) I would like to "invest" in.  One of
> the
>> primary qualities that the synthesizer I choose must have is long-
> term
>> durability.  All over your site I have come across the phrase "high
> quality"
>> several times, which makes me feel comfortable about buying your
> products.
>> However, I was reading through the "FAQ" section of another
> synthesizer
>> manufaturer's site (synthesizers.com) and came across the following
> forum
>> posting:
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>>> http://synthesizers.com/doepfervsdotcom.txt
>>> 
>>> The problem that I have is that the writer describes Doepfer's
> jacks as
>> less than adequate in terms of long term durability (their use of
> jacks
>> soldered directly to the PC boards as opposed to wired to the PC
> Board).
>> When I read it initially, it didn't affect my opinion about Analogue
>> System's jacks, because I was not aware of what type of jacks AS
> uses.
>> However, I was able to check out the back-side of an RS 95 module
> and found
>> that the jacks AS uses are soldered directly to the PC Board like
> Doepfer
>> does.  I have also read about low level noise issues with AS
> equipment.
>>> 
>>> Anyways, I just wanted to see if you had any information on the
> long-term
>> durability of your jacks.  It may seem like I'm nitpicking, (and
> I'm sorry
>> for that) but modular analog equipment (especially from England
> with the
>> weakening dollar) is quite expensive.  I am basically torn between
>> Synthesizers.com's modulars and AS's (main differences being price
> and
>> jacks).  For me, the price of AS's equipment is more here in
> America so I'd
>> like to be comfortable with paying for a product with in some cases
> more
>> options and hopefully with a higher quality standard.    I know
> this email
>> has been fairly long and I appreciate your time.  Any information
> would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Beau
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