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Re: Sampler-Delay 290/295: External Feedback Loop

2005-02-01 by waveform100

I am a analogue Freak, but I think for a FS in a Feedback-Loop a 
digital Delay like the RS 290 is a bit more interesting in this 
particular case. The MoogerFooger Delay is really nice (I had one for 
about 2 years), but the frequency-range is small. The Frequency-Range 
of a Blacet Time-Machine is much bigger, but the sound of the 
Moogerfooger is "warmer". Too bad, the Time-Machine has no External 
Loop function.

BTW: For guys who don't have a Frequency Shifter, try it with a 
Ringmodulator. I just checked it with the Real Ringmodulator from Ken 
Stone (CatGirlSynth) and its very cool too.

Olivier

--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:
> 
> 
> some weeks ago i tried the doepfer fs in the feedback loop
> of a moogerfooger delay with very nice results.
> frequency shifters and delays seem to be a rewarding
> combination in most cases.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, "waveform100" 
<googol@g...> 
> wrote:
> > 
> > I guess for these kind of evolving effects you can also try the 
> > doepfer FS, it is not a effect, that requires a through-zero FS. 
To 
> > be honest, I had the doepfer FS once and didn't like it. I didn't 
> > always love my Bode, but since I heard this effect, I would buy 
it 
> > just for that (OK, also for the through-zero phasing effects).
> > 
> > --- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > hello w100,
> > > yes, if i had the bode shifter rs240...
> > > sadly, i do not have this module.
> > > bakis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- waveform100 <googol@g...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Try the Bode, this is the best in the feedback loop
> > > > so far. Check out 
> > > > every Bode-Mode and also the zero-mode.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "waveform100" <googol@g...> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is deeper than I thought. BTW: I have Sample
> > > > Rate and the 
> > > > > damping on the two attenuators. Tweaking Sample
> > > > Rate, Delay Time 
> > > > and 
> > > > > filter cutoff at the same time (joystick) is
> > > > pretty cool.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, Bakis
> > > > Sirros 
> > > > > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > > > hello wave100,
> > > > > > i have the rs290/295 for about 18 months, so
> > > > far, and
> > > > > > i use it very often. i haven't tried many
> > > > modules in
> > > > > > it's external feedback loop ,but very good
> > > > results i
> > > > > > get when i patch the rs360 phase filter bank in
> > > > the
> > > > > > rs290's feedback loop. i usualy modulate one or
> > > > two of
> > > > > > the three BP mode filters of the rs360 with an
> > > > lfo to
> > > > > > get more evolving results.
> > > > > > bakis.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- waveform100 <googol@g...> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I have the Sampler-Delay for about 2 Weeks
> > > > now. I
> > > > > > > purchased it only 
> > > > > > > because of the external feedback loop. Its so
> > > > cool.
> > > > > > > When you put a 
> > > > > > > good analogue filter into the feedback loop
> > > > you get
> > > > > > > really analogue 
> > > > > > > delays. They are as good as my real analogue
> > > > delays.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What else do you guys put in the feedback
> > > > Loop? So
> > > > > > > far the doepfer 
> > > > > > > Modules Morphing Filter and the SSM-Filter
> > > > work very
> > > > > > > well. The 
> > > > > > > doepfer Moog-Filter doesn't work too well, the
> > > > input
> > > > > > > is too low, so 
> > > > > > > its not possible to get very long feedbacks. I
> > > > will
> > > > > > > test is also 
> > > > > > > with  Wiard, Oakley and blacet filters, when
> > > > its in
> > > > > > > the main studio.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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