Analogue systems

hello,

anybody here using a rs390 echo module?
i wonder how it sounds.

best wishes

self oscillate

If I am not mistaken, the 390 has the same DSP engine as the 290, without
the ability to sample or  really break into the digital feature set like you
can with its big brother.

It sounds great!

Peter


selfoscillatewrote:


hello,

anybody here using a rs390 echo module?
i wonder how it sounds.

best wishes

self oscillate




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take a look here:
http://www.buzzclick-music.com/music.html

best wishes

self oscillate



--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:

> hi arnauld,
> where did you find and download that piece?i would
> like to hear it,too....
> bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> --- Arnauld Michelizza <am@z...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > I have just heard "ElectroLux" and I like it. It's a
> > great piece !
> > As a beginner in making electronic music, I was just
> > wondering how you
> > recorded and mixed that track ?
> > 
> > For information, my own way of making music is :
> > 1. recording layers (synth sounds + effetcs) with
> > protools.
> > 2. copy/paste etc. layers
> > 3. automating mix
> > 
> > Arnauld
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Hi Peter,

I have just heard "ElectroLux" and I like it. It's a great piece !
As a beginner in making electronic music, I was just wondering how you
recorded and mixed that track ?

For information, my own way of making music is :
1. recording layers (synth sounds + effetcs) with protools.
2. copy/paste etc. layers
3. automating mix

Arnauld

hi arnauld,
where did you find and download that piece?i would
like to hear it,too....
bakis.



--- Arnauld Michelizza <am@zehc.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> I have just heard "ElectroLux" and I like it. It's a
> great piece !
> As a beginner in making electronic music, I was just
> wondering how you
> recorded and mixed that track ?
> 
> For information, my own way of making music is :
> 1. recording layers (synth sounds + effetcs) with
> protools.
> 2. copy/paste etc. layers
> 3. automating mix
> 
> Arnauld
> 
> 


=====
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athens-greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner

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Arnauld-

Thanks for the kind words on Electrolux.  It was much work , but 
a lot of fun.

My platform is Digital Performer.  I chose this because at the 
time I was shopping around and asking people about this, 
everybody opened with "Well, if you can't afford Digital Performer, 
then..."  Literally, I heard this about 6 times.

So figuring there was a message in there somewhere, I chose 
DP.

Then yes, I also cut and paste all over the place where required 
as this is one of the major benefits of digital audio, and what I 
consider the most significant advancement in electronic music 
production in the last 25 years. 

I use a motor mix control surface for mix automation.  I found 
(attempting) to do so with a mouse quite limiting and the latency 
was driving me bats.  I strongly recommend that everyone invest 
in a DAW controller, as it makes a world of difference.  Mackie 
now makes one, as do a few others.

As far as the process of writing,  on larger works such as this 
thing, I precompose.  I basically know what I'm going to have to 
do to complete it well in advance of actually recording all the 
voices.  The work is mapped out, then I begin painting in the 
colors so to speak.  This is not to say that changes don't come 
up during the process, or that I go back and re-realize some of 
the voices later if I think improvement is needed.  But it's not like I 
find a new sound, then find a place to put it.  Most of the voice 
selection is done well before the piece is laid to 'tape' so to 
speak.

I am not saying that this is the only way, nor the best way to write 
- it's just my schtick - and for good or bad, it works for me.

As far as where the ideas come form initially, usually an entire 
piece is sparked by a single phrase, which may or may not have 
it's roots in some improvational moment. - something I tripped 
on when dicking around.  This was definately the case with this 
one.  The first phrase, the two massive impulses that happen 
immediately and the sustain that follows was that moment for 
this work.  From that point, i sat down and wrote a piece of music 
around it and as per my usual, i used traditional music form.  E 
is ABA with a coda. I think you can definately hear the 
recapitulation of the A section, although varied somewhat from 
it's original presentation.

ANd I don't know if anyone else does this, but I am always aware 
of aqn audience listening when I start this whole process. Jacob 
Druckman siad a composer needs to be responsible about the 
time they take from their ausience and I've taken that to heart.

So to that end,  my driving force when writing  is the 'hook them in 
the first 20 second" theory.  If you can develop an idea, a sound, 
a presentation - SOMETHING that grabs their attention in the first 
20 seconds - then you've got them after that as long as you want 
them.  If that doens't happen within that time however, your 
audience will probably lose their focus rather quickly and at that 
point, the piece might as well end.

I hope this answers your question, sorry for such a long posting.

P












--- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" 
<synaptic_music@y...> wrote:

> 
> take a look here:
> http://www.buzzclick-music.com/music.html
> 
> best wishes
> 
> self oscillate
> 
> 
> 
> --- In analogue_systems@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hi arnauld,
> > where did you find and download that piece?i would
> > like to hear it,too....
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Arnauld Michelizza <am@z...> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Peter,
> > > 
> > > I have just heard "ElectroLux" and I like it. It's a
> > > great piece !
> > > As a beginner in making electronic music, I was just
> > > wondering how you
> > > recorded and mixed that track ?
> > > 
> > > For information, my own way of making music is :
> > > 1. recording layers (synth sounds + effetcs) with
> > > protools.
> > > 2. copy/paste etc. layers
> > > 3. automating mix
> > > 
> > > Arnauld
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > =====
> > synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> > athens-greece
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > 
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.
> > http://search.yahoo.com

Thank you very much for your usefull and very interesting answer !
:-))

Arnauld