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Re: clanging!

2004-09-25 by Modular Fan

hello,

The easiest ways in my opinion are either using
FM/oscillators modulating each other, or the most
simple of all, audio-rate lfos. Put the lfo in "high"
mode with a really fast frequency (rate) and adjust
the pitch env to taste.

Good luck,

Shawn Cleary
schism@traumatik.net


		
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Re: [analogue_systems] Re: clanging!

2004-09-25 by Peter Grenader

I guess the obvious should be mentioned - whether you're using FM or ring
modulation, stick to sine tones for both the carrier and the modulator.
Otherwise you're going to get some side bands with the log FM in on the
RS-95 which is not going to sound natural to your bell.  So if you use an
LFO for the modulator, use the triangle out and run it through the lowpass
filter to smooth it out before routing into either the fm in the the VCO or
ring mod. 

If you're going the FM route, use the variable input, not the 1v/oct one on
the VCO,  You're going to have to play with the amount and the pedal to the
metal of the 1v/oct is going to (probably) be too much.

It your really into bell tones, think about the Bob's Bode Freq SHifter.
It's the world class bell-elator.



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> The easiest ways in my opinion are either using
> FM/oscillators modulating each other, or the most
> simple of all, audio-rate lfos. Put the lfo in "high"
> mode with a really fast frequency (rate) and adjust
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Re: clanging!

2004-09-25 by synthtrader

> It your really into bell tones, think about the Bob's Bode Freq 
> SHifter. It's the world class bell-elator.

Peter is right, I forgot about this, this module will give you 
instant bell sounds. Unfortunately it is a bit noisy not to mention 
expensive. The "big knob" is very cool though :)

Anyone notice any crosstalk with theirs? 

Bye,

Shawn Cleary

Re: [analogue_systems] Re: clanging!

2004-09-26 by Tentochi

> It your really into bell tones, think about the Bob's Bode Freq SHifter.
> It's the world class bell-elator.

     http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_fs1.html

This is a better solution.  In MOTM format.

Cheers!
Todd


		
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Re: [analogue_systems] Re: clanging!

2004-09-26 by Peter Grenader

The Encore unit is nice - very VERY clean.  But it's range is really small -
about an octave up and down.  The A. Sys Bode unit, IMHO, is superior.

Tentochi wrote:
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>> It's the world class bell-elator.
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> Cheers!
> Todd
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Re: [analogue_systems] Re: clanging!

2004-09-26 by Terje Winther

>I guess the obvious should be mentioned - whether you're using FM or ring
>modulation, stick to sine tones for both the carrier and the modulator.

It is also important to experiment with the tuning of the two VCOs 
involved. If you are using a ring modulator, you need to try out 
different "out-of-tune" setting to obtain your desired bell tones.


-- 
tw.  :)

Re: [analogue_systems] Re: clanging!

2004-09-26 by Tentochi

> The Encore unit is nice - very VERY clean.  But it's range is really small -
> about an octave up and down.  The A. Sys Bode unit, IMHO, is superior.

No arguments.  But the Encore does when in terms of availability, affordability, support and
reliability (no 30 year old caps, etc.).

How many octaves up and down does the Bode do?  What other things do you prefer about the Bode?

> >> It your really into bell tones, think about the Bob's Bode Freq SHifter.
> >> It's the world class bell-elator.
> > 
> > http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_fs1.html
> > 
> > This is a better solution.  In MOTM format.

Cheers!
Todd



		
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Re: [analogue_systems] Re: clanging!

2004-09-26 by Peter Grenader

Tentochi wrote:

> No arguments.  But the Encore does when in terms of availability,
> affordability, support and
> reliability (no 30 year old caps, etc.).

I don't think Bob Williams is using 30 year old caps in his Bode!  But, no
arguments - the Encore unit is a great value and incorporating digital
technology where it really helps - the internal quadrit. oscillator.

[analogue_systems] Freq Shifters was Re: clanging!

2004-09-27 by p.hendricks

On 9/25/04 11:33 PM, "Peter Grenader" <peter@buzzclick-music.com> wrote:

> The Encore unit is nice - very VERY clean.  But it's range is really small -
> about an octave up and down.

any idea if that's a limitation of the RISC chip or it didn't sound as
good/clean with a wider range so Tony limited it's range?  I'd be willing to
give up quality for that wider range. possible?
The dollar is so weak now the AS is not an option for me, the Doepfer is fun
but I was hoping the Encore would be a lot better.
-phil

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