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Re: NRPN's with SX3

2006-03-31 by kmxe

Hi Elea,

this is exactly what was happening. actually i got some help from 
this guy in Canada who has been trying to help me. Eventually he 
sent me a template for SX3 as a basic 8channel mixer control. 
Needless to say it worked. I compared the 2 .xml files in word pad 
and noticed the difference in the flags numbering. when i changed 
my .xml file with these same numbers, it worked. ive been trying to 
find a logical explanation for this, but i guess there is no logic - 
Cubase just screws this part up. Is this a known bug?

anyways, now i have a problem with my push/rotary knob #6 in encoder 
group 1. It doesnt matter what i assign it to it doesnt work. im 
trying to figure out what could be causing it, but the more tests i 
do, the more i think i have a faulty unit.

Another thing, this guy from Canada, set up the 1st 8 push 
button/rotary knobs (encoder group 1) to select the audio track 
(between 1-8). So by pressing the 2nd knob in encoder group 1, Audio 
track 2 is selected. However, it doesnt always work properly. what 
sometimes happens is that i press 1 of these push/rotary knobs (say 
number 3) and sx3 selects audio track 3, but then it would select 
audio track 2, and sometimes bounce back to audio track 3 - this is 
all with 1 press of the push/rotary knob. its almost as if sx3 
receives a message from 1 of the other push/rotary knobs to select a 
different track. i wonder if you could try to set up 1 row of your 
push/rotary knobs to select audio tracks, and see if the same thing 
happens to you. 

i cannot think of why it would jump between selecting tracks.... it 
just doesnt make sense. 

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kmxe
> 
>  
> 
> Cubase SX Generic Remote commits  mistakes when recording the 
assignment
> script (xml file). I don't know if this is your problem but give 
it a try:
> 
> Open the xml file with Notepad.  There are 2 sections: the first 
one begins
> with:
> 
> <ctrltable name="Standard MIDI">
> 
> And finishes with
> 
> </ctrltable>
> 
> It defines the BCR/BCF buttons/faders/knobs and their Midi 
assignment. All
> your NRPN buttons/knobs should look something like this:
> 
> <ctrl><name>Fader
> 
1</name><stat>2</stat><chan>0</chan><addr>900</addr><max>999</max><fl
ags>19<
> /flags></ctrl>
> 
> Underlined is the adress for this controller. This is the adress 
you give
> your button/knob when configuring it in BC-Edit (or manually).
> 
> In bold, you can see what defines NRPN 14bits controllers. Cubase 
SX Generic
> Remote sometimes does not write these correctly to the xml file. 
So if you
> want NRPN 14 bits you need stat set to 2 and flags set to 19. If 
you want
> normal CCs or other standard Midi controller stat needs to be 176 
and flags
> 3.
> 
>  
> 
> Of course this is completely useless if it's not mirrored on your 
unit.
> Let's say you have set the first knob to be a 14 bits encoder in 
Cubase, but
> on your unit it's set to a CC, needless to say things won't work.
> 
> So first decide what your unit is going to be like, program it 
either with
> BC-Edit or manually so that the controllers on your xml file will 
match the
> unit's. Then assign these controllers to Cubase Generic Remote 
either
> entering them or using the function Learn. Check the xml file in 
Notepad.
> Then assign functions in Cubase. This is done in the second 
section of the
> xml file. It begins with 
> 
> <bank name="mybankname">
> 
> And finishes with
> 
> </bank>
> 
>  
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Elea
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En 
nombre de kmxe
> Enviado el: jueves, 30 de marzo de 2006 9:35
> Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> 
>  
> 
> 
> > Are you updated to the latest version of the BCR OS?  Do you 
have 
> Java 1.4 
> > instead of 1.5? (You want Java 1.4)  
> 
> yes & yes
> 
> 
> >Are you sure that you have been 
> > successful in loading the configuration that you designed using 
> BCEdit to 
> > the BCR?  
> 
> im as sure as i can be
> 
> >The only easy way for you to test is to attempt to control some 
> > other program via NRPN's, and see if it doesn't work anywhere..  
> 
> ill see what i can find out
> 
> thanks for your help
> 
> 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "kmxe" <kmxeproductions@>
> > To: <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:20 AM
> > Subject: [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > 
> > 
> > > hi eric, thanks for the reply. i already know how to tell 
cubase
> > > what to do via CC's. ive had no probs with this - it's using 
> NRPN's
> > > that i'm having problems with. i had a guy via MSN tell me 
step 
> by
> > > step what he does, and i set it up exactly like my first post -
 
> for
> > > him it worked, for me it hasn't. i'm wondering if there is a 
way 
> to
> > > prove or disprove that my BCR is faulty. ive read and re-read 
> both
> > > manuals and cannot find anything else that im not doing. as 
per 
> my
> > > post, im already trying to set things up via the generic 
remote.
> > >
> > > do you have any ideas as to what I could be doing wrong? if a 
> person
> > > on the other side of the world set up his system which worked, 
> and
> > > then gave me the exact same settings and it didnt work, i can 
> only
> > > conclude that it's either i have some settings or preferences 
> thats
> > > preventing me making this work, or the unit is faulty. if 
there 
> is a
> > > third possibility - i cant think of it.
> > >
> > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Bowen" <erik.bowen@> 
wrote:
> > >>
> > >> In SX, open the "Devices" drop down menu, select "Device 
Setup",
> > > then in the
> > >> left portion of this window select "Remote Devices > Generic
> > > Remote".
> > >>
> > >> Then, read the part of the SX help file entitled "The Generic
> > > Remote" to
> > >> learn how to tell Cubase what to do when it receives 
information
> > > on each CC#
> > >> that you want to use to control SX.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >> From: "kmxe" <kmxeproductions@>
> > >> To: <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:13 AM
> > >> Subject: [bc2000] NRPN's with SX3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > ive tried and tried for the past week to control SX3 
> parameters
> > > via
> > >> > NRPN's to take advantage of the "14 bit resolution". Now, 
im 
> not
> > >> > very good with MIDI, so im not even sure if im wording 
things
> > >> > correctly. This is the settings ive tried:
> > >> >
> > >> > MIDI Date Type: NRPN
> > >> > Send channel: 1
> > >> > NRPN no.: 1
> > >> >
> > >> > Ctrl Mode: Absolute 14bit (ive tried all the other just in 
> case)
> > >> >
> > >> > in SX3 via the Generic Remote
> > >> >
> > >> > MIDI Input: BCR2000
> > >> >
> > >> > MIDI Status: CTRL NRPN
> > >> > MIDI Channel: 1
> > >> > Address: 1
> > >> > Flags: R,T
> > >> >
> > >> > Since i havent done this before, ive basically taken an 
> educated
> > >> > guess based on me being able to control the parameters via 
> CC's,
> > > and
> > >> > whatever i can find on the net.
> > >> >
> > >> > i need someone to set the record straight for me, im losing 
> sleep
> > >> > over this!!!!!
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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