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RE: [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3

2006-04-03 by Elea

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De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de kmxe
Enviado el: domingo, 02 de abril de 2006 1:54
Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3

 

hi Elea,

i hope its a free update, im not keen on paying for something for 1 
little bug fix!

knob#6 - this was kinda strange. the problem ended up being the CC 
that it was transmitting. From memory i think it was 38 - as soon as 
it was changed to something else, it worked. Are there particular 
CC's that SX3 reserve/doesnt like? but in either case, its no longer 
a problem.

> The thing you describe about the push encoders happens to mine 
too. I think
> it isn't the unit, I think it's Cubase. 

perfect! you know what you have done for me? you've saved me brining 
this unit to the store i bought it from (more than an hour away) for 
the support guy to test it out overnight. at least you've cleared 
this up. i was testing it by assigning these push encoders to mute 
instead and it worked, so i couldnt work out why audio track select 
mucks up.

Mackie Emulation - where do i get this? Ive been trying to find it. 
And also this LCD soft display - i would like these (i think)! i 
remember reading that the Mackie Emulation was only available for 
the BCF.... but if its available for the BCR, and is highly 
recommened by users then ill give it a go. can you point me in the 
right direction?

thanks for clearing up some stuff... i can stop pulling my hair out 
now!







--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Kmxe
> 
> The xml thing is a known bug. For some reason Cubase Sx Generic 
Remote
> commits mistakes when transcribing the script. It'll probably be 
fixed in
> next version.
> 
> About your Knob #6, make sure it is really assigned to the 
controller you
> want. If you haven't changed the Learn/Edit/Store/Exit Function 
buttons,
> check manually in the unit if the assignment is really correct. If 
not,
> reset the unit and BC-Edit and see if BC-Edit shows the correct 
parameters
> when reading your unit.
> 
>  
> 
> Another important thing is: do you have the latest Behringer Midi 
Drivers
> and Firmware. Check the website and make sure you do.
> 
>  
> 
> The thing you describe about the push encoders happens to mine 
too. I think
> it isn't the unit, I think it's Cubase. And I'll tell you why: 
When you use
> Mackie Control Emulation mode (which I really recommend. After 
doing
> templates and stuff I finally ended using it) it doesn't happen. 
Mackie
> Control Emulation mode uses HUI protocol. When you use the Generic 
Remote
> Mode it happens. I just think the Cubase Generic Remote protocol 
is not yet
> fully implemented and developped. It is very recent too. They'll 
eventually
> fix it.
> 
> I've found that the only thing you can do about it is just to wait 
for it to
> stop "dancing around". :-)
> 
> Do you use a USB connection? Try using a Midi connection only (S-4 
mode) and
> see if it happens again. USB connection many times gives errors. I 
began
> having an error from BC-Edit when trying to transfer sysex files. 
After a
> lot of trying and searching I found out that in S-4 mode and Midi 
connection
> only it works fine. So when I want toconfigure the unit I switch 
to Midi!!
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En 
nombre de kmxe
> Enviado el: viernes, 31 de marzo de 2006 13:15
> Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Elea,
> 
> this is exactly what was happening. actually i got some help from 
> this guy in Canada who has been trying to help me. Eventually he 
> sent me a template for SX3 as a basic 8channel mixer control. 
> Needless to say it worked. I compared the 2 .xml files in word pad 
> and noticed the difference in the flags numbering. when i changed 
> my .xml file with these same numbers, it worked. ive been trying 
to 
> find a logical explanation for this, but i guess there is no 
logic - 
> Cubase just screws this part up. Is this a known bug?
> 
> anyways, now i have a problem with my push/rotary knob #6 in 
encoder 
> group 1. It doesnt matter what i assign it to it doesnt work. im 
> trying to figure out what could be causing it, but the more tests 
i 
> do, the more i think i have a faulty unit.
> 
> Another thing, this guy from Canada, set up the 1st 8 push 
> button/rotary knobs (encoder group 1) to select the audio track 
> (between 1-8). So by pressing the 2nd knob in encoder group 1, 
Audio 
> track 2 is selected. However, it doesnt always work properly. what 
> sometimes happens is that i press 1 of these push/rotary knobs 
(say 
> number 3) and sx3 selects audio track 3, but then it would select 
> audio track 2, and sometimes bounce back to audio track 3 - this 
is 
> all with 1 press of the push/rotary knob. its almost as if sx3 
> receives a message from 1 of the other push/rotary knobs to select 
a 
> different track. i wonder if you could try to set up 1 row of your 
> push/rotary knobs to select audio tracks, and see if the same 
thing 
> happens to you. 
> 
> i cannot think of why it would jump between selecting tracks.... 
it 
> just doesnt make sense. 
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kmxe
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Cubase SX Generic Remote commits  mistakes when recording the 
> assignment
> > script (xml file). I don't know if this is your problem but give 
> it a try:
> > 
> > Open the xml file with Notepad.  There are 2 sections: the first 
> one begins
> > with:
> > 
> > <ctrltable name="Standard MIDI">
> > 
> > And finishes with
> > 
> > </ctrltable>
> > 
> > It defines the BCR/BCF buttons/faders/knobs and their Midi 
> assignment. All
> > your NRPN buttons/knobs should look something like this:
> > 
> > <ctrl><name>Fader
> > 
> 
1</name><stat>2</stat><chan>0</chan><addr>900</addr><max>999</max><fl
> ags>19<
> > /flags></ctrl>
> > 
> > Underlined is the adress for this controller. This is the adress 
> you give
> > your button/knob when configuring it in BC-Edit (or manually).
> > 
> > In bold, you can see what defines NRPN 14bits controllers. 
Cubase 
> SX Generic
> > Remote sometimes does not write these correctly to the xml file. 
> So if you
> > want NRPN 14 bits you need stat set to 2 and flags set to 19. If 
> you want
> > normal CCs or other standard Midi controller stat needs to be 
176 
> and flags
> > 3.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Of course this is completely useless if it's not mirrored on 
your 
> unit.
> > Let's say you have set the first knob to be a 14 bits encoder in 
> Cubase, but
> > on your unit it's set to a CC, needless to say things won't work.
> > 
> > So first decide what your unit is going to be like, program it 
> either with
> > BC-Edit or manually so that the controllers on your xml file 
will 
> match the
> > unit's. Then assign these controllers to Cubase Generic Remote 
> either
> > entering them or using the function Learn. Check the xml file in 
> Notepad.
> > Then assign functions in Cubase. This is done in the second 
> section of the
> > xml file. It begins with 
> > 
> > <bank name="mybankname">
> > 
> > And finishes with
> > 
> > </bank>
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Good luck
> > 
> > Elea
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En 
> nombre de kmxe
> > Enviado el: jueves, 30 de marzo de 2006 9:35
> > Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> > Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > > Are you updated to the latest version of the BCR OS?  Do you 
> have 
> > Java 1.4 
> > > instead of 1.5? (You want Java 1.4)  
> > 
> > yes & yes
> > 
> > 
> > >Are you sure that you have been 
> > > successful in loading the configuration that you designed 
using 
> > BCEdit to 
> > > the BCR?  
> > 
> > im as sure as i can be
> > 
> > >The only easy way for you to test is to attempt to control some 
> > > other program via NRPN's, and see if it doesn't work 
anywhere..  
> > 
> > ill see what i can find out
> > 
> > thanks for your help
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "kmxe" <kmxeproductions@>
> > > To: <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:20 AM
> > > Subject: [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > hi eric, thanks for the reply. i already know how to tell 
> cubase
> > > > what to do via CC's. ive had no probs with this - it's using 
> > NRPN's
> > > > that i'm having problems with. i had a guy via MSN tell me 
> step 
> > by
> > > > step what he does, and i set it up exactly like my first 
post -
> 
> > for
> > > > him it worked, for me it hasn't. i'm wondering if there is a 
> way 
> > to
> > > > prove or disprove that my BCR is faulty. ive read and re-
read 
> > both
> > > > manuals and cannot find anything else that im not doing. as 
> per 
> > my
> > > > post, im already trying to set things up via the generic 
> remote.
> > > >
> > > > do you have any ideas as to what I could be doing wrong? if 
a 
> > person
> > > > on the other side of the world set up his system which 
worked, 
> > and
> > > > then gave me the exact same settings and it didnt work, i 
can 
> > only
> > > > conclude that it's either i have some settings or 
preferences 
> > thats
> > > > preventing me making this work, or the unit is faulty. if 
> there 
> > is a
> > > > third possibility - i cant think of it.
> > > >
> > > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Bowen" <erik.bowen@> 
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> In SX, open the "Devices" drop down menu, select "Device 
> Setup",
> > > > then in the
> > > >> left portion of this window select "Remote Devices > Generic
> > > > Remote".
> > > >>
> > > >> Then, read the part of the SX help file entitled "The 
Generic
> > > > Remote" to
> > > >> learn how to tell Cubase what to do when it receives 
> information
> > > > on each CC#
> > > >> that you want to use to control SX.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >> From: "kmxe" <kmxeproductions@>
> > > >> To: <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:13 AM
> > > >> Subject: [bc2000] NRPN's with SX3
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> > ive tried and tried for the past week to control SX3 
> > parameters
> > > > via
> > > >> > NRPN's to take advantage of the "14 bit resolution". Now, 
> im 
> > not
> > > >> > very good with MIDI, so im not even sure if im wording 
> things
> > > >> > correctly. This is the settings ive tried:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > MIDI Date Type: NRPN
> > > >> > Send channel: 1
> > > >> > NRPN no.: 1
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Ctrl Mode: Absolute 14bit (ive tried all the other just 
in 
> > case)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > in SX3 via the Generic Remote
> > > >> >
> > > >> > MIDI Input: BCR2000
> > > >> >
> > > >> > MIDI Status: CTRL NRPN
> > > >> > MIDI Channel: 1
> > > >> > Address: 1
> > > >> > Flags: R,T
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Since i havent done this before, ive basically taken an 
> > educated
> > > >> > guess based on me being able to control the parameters 
via 
> > CC's,
> > > > and
> > > >> > whatever i can find on the net.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > i need someone to set the record straight for me, im 
losing 
> > sleep
> > > >> > over this!!!!!
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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