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RE: [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3

2006-04-03 by Elea

1-The KVR forum has ALL the info you need. You can always register and ask
there too.

2-I use a BCF2000, so I don't use huskervu (I run it in Mackie Mode), but I
have tried it and it works. I didn't need to make any extra account. The
only thing that happens is that you get that User window when you start up.
Nothing's perfewct I suppose. You can always email Husker and ask him if
there's a way around that. He's a very nice dude.

3-Are you sure you need Midi-OX for huskervu? Is it not Midi Yoke? Email
Husker.

4-For the Mackie Emu Mode with the BCR, try email Namihei. I guess you
choose Mackie Control in Cubase after sending the sysex to one of the BCR
presets, but it's only my guess.

 

Sorry I can't help you more, but you'll find answers at the KVR

 

 

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De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de kmxe
Enviado el: lunes, 03 de abril de 2006 12:52
Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3

 

Hey, 

i managed to find them, thanks for that. How the hell do you set it 
up? Could you give me a step by step on this? ive installed the 
programs, but im unsure as to how im to set up each part.

also, with the .NET Framework - does this force your XP to add a new 
account to accomodate for this .NET Framework? Ive installed it, and 
when i rebooted - i had to choose a user (i didnt set up my PC like 
this beforehand)!

after reading the (very brief) instructions that came with the 
huskerview, im guessing that i have to change some settings in the 
MIDIOX program, which will allow the huskervu to 'see' this virtual 
midi port - i have no idea how to do this.

with the mackie emulation - do i just load the sysex file (for 
cubase) into the BCR, then add a 'Mackie' remote in the Devices page 
in cubase? Ive done this - and the resulting page in the 
cubase/devices screen looks bizaare to me. in either case, it seems 
i have to have the MIDIOX setup properly first before i can use this 
emulation - please help (again)!!!!!

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@...> wrote:
>
> Have a look here:
> 
> http://www.kvraudio.com/
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.xmlconsulting.co.nz/husker/huskervu.htm
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.geocities.jp/mackicrokontrol/
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/  (Mac only)
> 
>  
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Elea
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En 
nombre de kmxe
> Enviado el: domingo, 02 de abril de 2006 1:54
> Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> 
>  
> 
> hi Elea,
> 
> i hope its a free update, im not keen on paying for something for 
1 
> little bug fix!
> 
> knob#6 - this was kinda strange. the problem ended up being the CC 
> that it was transmitting. From memory i think it was 38 - as soon 
as 
> it was changed to something else, it worked. Are there particular 
> CC's that SX3 reserve/doesnt like? but in either case, its no 
longer 
> a problem.
> 
> > The thing you describe about the push encoders happens to mine 
> too. I think
> > it isn't the unit, I think it's Cubase. 
> 
> perfect! you know what you have done for me? you've saved me 
brining 
> this unit to the store i bought it from (more than an hour away) 
for 
> the support guy to test it out overnight. at least you've cleared 
> this up. i was testing it by assigning these push encoders to mute 
> instead and it worked, so i couldnt work out why audio track 
select 
> mucks up.
> 
> Mackie Emulation - where do i get this? Ive been trying to find 
it. 
> And also this LCD soft display - i would like these (i think)! i 
> remember reading that the Mackie Emulation was only available for 
> the BCF.... but if its available for the BCR, and is highly 
> recommened by users then ill give it a go. can you point me in the 
> right direction?
> 
> thanks for clearing up some stuff... i can stop pulling my hair 
out 
> now!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kmxe
> > 
> > The xml thing is a known bug. For some reason Cubase Sx Generic 
> Remote
> > commits mistakes when transcribing the script. It'll probably be 
> fixed in
> > next version.
> > 
> > About your Knob #6, make sure it is really assigned to the 
> controller you
> > want. If you haven't changed the Learn/Edit/Store/Exit Function 
> buttons,
> > check manually in the unit if the assignment is really correct. 
If 
> not,
> > reset the unit and BC-Edit and see if BC-Edit shows the correct 
> parameters
> > when reading your unit.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Another important thing is: do you have the latest Behringer 
Midi 
> Drivers
> > and Firmware. Check the website and make sure you do.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > The thing you describe about the push encoders happens to mine 
> too. I think
> > it isn't the unit, I think it's Cubase. And I'll tell you why: 
> When you use
> > Mackie Control Emulation mode (which I really recommend. After 
> doing
> > templates and stuff I finally ended using it) it doesn't happen. 
> Mackie
> > Control Emulation mode uses HUI protocol. When you use the 
Generic 
> Remote
> > Mode it happens. I just think the Cubase Generic Remote protocol 
> is not yet
> > fully implemented and developped. It is very recent too. They'll 
> eventually
> > fix it.
> > 
> > I've found that the only thing you can do about it is just to 
wait 
> for it to
> > stop "dancing around". :-)
> > 
> > Do you use a USB connection? Try using a Midi connection only (S-
4 
> mode) and
> > see if it happens again. USB connection many times gives errors. 
I 
> began
> > having an error from BC-Edit when trying to transfer sysex 
files. 
> After a
> > lot of trying and searching I found out that in S-4 mode and 
Midi 
> connection
> > only it works fine. So when I want toconfigure the unit I switch 
> to Midi!!
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En 
> nombre de kmxe
> > Enviado el: viernes, 31 de marzo de 2006 13:15
> > Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> > Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Hi Elea,
> > 
> > this is exactly what was happening. actually i got some help 
from 
> > this guy in Canada who has been trying to help me. Eventually he 
> > sent me a template for SX3 as a basic 8channel mixer control. 
> > Needless to say it worked. I compared the 2 .xml files in word 
pad 
> > and noticed the difference in the flags numbering. when i 
changed 
> > my .xml file with these same numbers, it worked. ive been trying 
> to 
> > find a logical explanation for this, but i guess there is no 
> logic - 
> > Cubase just screws this part up. Is this a known bug?
> > 
> > anyways, now i have a problem with my push/rotary knob #6 in 
> encoder 
> > group 1. It doesnt matter what i assign it to it doesnt work. im 
> > trying to figure out what could be causing it, but the more 
tests 
> i 
> > do, the more i think i have a faulty unit.
> > 
> > Another thing, this guy from Canada, set up the 1st 8 push 
> > button/rotary knobs (encoder group 1) to select the audio track 
> > (between 1-8). So by pressing the 2nd knob in encoder group 1, 
> Audio 
> > track 2 is selected. However, it doesnt always work properly. 
what 
> > sometimes happens is that i press 1 of these push/rotary knobs 
> (say 
> > number 3) and sx3 selects audio track 3, but then it would 
select 
> > audio track 2, and sometimes bounce back to audio track 3 - this 
> is 
> > all with 1 press of the push/rotary knob. its almost as if sx3 
> > receives a message from 1 of the other push/rotary knobs to 
select 
> a 
> > different track. i wonder if you could try to set up 1 row of 
your 
> > push/rotary knobs to select audio tracks, and see if the same 
> thing 
> > happens to you. 
> > 
> > i cannot think of why it would jump between selecting tracks.... 
> it 
> > just doesnt make sense. 
> > 
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kmxe
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Cubase SX Generic Remote commits  mistakes when recording the 
> > assignment
> > > script (xml file). I don't know if this is your problem but 
give 
> > it a try:
> > > 
> > > Open the xml file with Notepad.  There are 2 sections: the 
first 
> > one begins
> > > with:
> > > 
> > > <ctrltable name="Standard MIDI">
> > > 
> > > And finishes with
> > > 
> > > </ctrltable>
> > > 
> > > It defines the BCR/BCF buttons/faders/knobs and their Midi 
> > assignment. All
> > > your NRPN buttons/knobs should look something like this:
> > > 
> > > <ctrl><name>Fader
> > > 
> > 
> 
1</name><stat>2</stat><chan>0</chan><addr>900</addr><max>999</max><fl
> > ags>19<
> > > /flags></ctrl>
> > > 
> > > Underlined is the adress for this controller. This is the 
adress 
> > you give
> > > your button/knob when configuring it in BC-Edit (or manually).
> > > 
> > > In bold, you can see what defines NRPN 14bits controllers. 
> Cubase 
> > SX Generic
> > > Remote sometimes does not write these correctly to the xml 
file. 
> > So if you
> > > want NRPN 14 bits you need stat set to 2 and flags set to 19. 
If 
> > you want
> > > normal CCs or other standard Midi controller stat needs to be 
> 176 
> > and flags
> > > 3.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Of course this is completely useless if it's not mirrored on 
> your 
> > unit.
> > > Let's say you have set the first knob to be a 14 bits encoder 
in 
> > Cubase, but
> > > on your unit it's set to a CC, needless to say things won't 
work.
> > > 
> > > So first decide what your unit is going to be like, program it 
> > either with
> > > BC-Edit or manually so that the controllers on your xml file 
> will 
> > match the
> > > unit's. Then assign these controllers to Cubase Generic Remote 
> > either
> > > entering them or using the function Learn. Check the xml file 
in 
> > Notepad.
> > > Then assign functions in Cubase. This is done in the second 
> > section of the
> > > xml file. It begins with 
> > > 
> > > <bank name="mybankname">
> > > 
> > > And finishes with
> > > 
> > > </bank>
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Good luck
> > > 
> > > Elea
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   _____  
> > > 
> > > De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En 
> > nombre de kmxe
> > > Enviado el: jueves, 30 de marzo de 2006 9:35
> > > Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> > > Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Are you updated to the latest version of the BCR OS?  Do you 
> > have 
> > > Java 1.4 
> > > > instead of 1.5? (You want Java 1.4)  
> > > 
> > > yes & yes
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >Are you sure that you have been 
> > > > successful in loading the configuration that you designed 
> using 
> > > BCEdit to 
> > > > the BCR?  
> > > 
> > > im as sure as i can be
> > > 
> > > >The only easy way for you to test is to attempt to control 
some 
> > > > other program via NRPN's, and see if it doesn't work 
> anywhere..  
> > > 
> > > ill see what i can find out
> > > 
> > > thanks for your help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "kmxe" <kmxeproductions@>
> > > > To: <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:20 AM
> > > > Subject: [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > hi eric, thanks for the reply. i already know how to tell 
> > cubase
> > > > > what to do via CC's. ive had no probs with this - it's 
using 
> > > NRPN's
> > > > > that i'm having problems with. i had a guy via MSN tell me 
> > step 
> > > by
> > > > > step what he does, and i set it up exactly like my first 
> post -
> > 
> > > for
> > > > > him it worked, for me it hasn't. i'm wondering if there is 
a 
> > way 
> > > to
> > > > > prove or disprove that my BCR is faulty. ive read and re-
> read 
> > > both
> > > > > manuals and cannot find anything else that im not doing. 
as 
> > per 
> > > my
> > > > > post, im already trying to set things up via the generic 
> > remote.
> > > > >
> > > > > do you have any ideas as to what I could be doing wrong? 
if 
> a 
> > > person
> > > > > on the other side of the world set up his system which 
> worked, 
> > > and
> > > > > then gave me the exact same settings and it didnt work, i 
> can 
> > > only
> > > > > conclude that it's either i have some settings or 
> preferences 
> > > thats
> > > > > preventing me making this work, or the unit is faulty. if 
> > there 
> > > is a
> > > > > third possibility - i cant think of it.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Bowen" <erik.bowen@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> In SX, open the "Devices" drop down menu, select "Device 
> > Setup",
> > > > > then in the
> > > > >> left portion of this window select "Remote Devices > 
Generic
> > > > > Remote".
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Then, read the part of the SX help file entitled "The 
> Generic
> > > > > Remote" to
> > > > >> learn how to tell Cubase what to do when it receives 
> > information
> > > > > on each CC#
> > > > >> that you want to use to control SX.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > >> From: "kmxe" <kmxeproductions@>
> > > > >> To: <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:13 AM
> > > > >> Subject: [bc2000] NRPN's with SX3
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > ive tried and tried for the past week to control SX3 
> > > parameters
> > > > > via
> > > > >> > NRPN's to take advantage of the "14 bit resolution". 
Now, 
> > im 
> > > not
> > > > >> > very good with MIDI, so im not even sure if im wording 
> > things
> > > > >> > correctly. This is the settings ive tried:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > MIDI Date Type: NRPN
> > > > >> > Send channel: 1
> > > > >> > NRPN no.: 1
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Ctrl Mode: Absolute 14bit (ive tried all the other just 
> in 
> > > case)
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > in SX3 via the Generic Remote
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > MIDI Input: BCR2000
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > MIDI Status: CTRL NRPN
> > > > >> > MIDI Channel: 1
> > > > >> > Address: 1
> > > > >> > Flags: R,T
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Since i havent done this before, ive basically taken an 
> > > educated
> > > > >> > guess based on me being able to control the parameters 
> via 
> > > CC's,
> > > > > and
> > > > >> > whatever i can find on the net.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > i need someone to set the record straight for me, im 
> losing 
> > > sleep
> > > > >> > over this!!!!!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
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