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RE: [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3

2006-04-04 by Elea

You're welcome!!

Cheers

Elea

 

  _____  

De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En nombre de kmxe
Enviado el: lunes, 03 de abril de 2006 21:24
Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3

 

cool, i got it worked out now. in my excitment i installed MIDIOX 
instead of MIDI Yoke!

now i just gotta learn how to use the Mackie Emulation!

hey, thanks for all your help... i appreciate it!

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@...> wrote:
>
> 1-The KVR forum has ALL the info you need. You can always register 
and ask
> there too.
> 
> 2-I use a BCF2000, so I don't use huskervu (I run it in Mackie 
Mode), but I
> have tried it and it works. I didn't need to make any extra 
account. The
> only thing that happens is that you get that User window when you 
start up.
> Nothing's perfewct I suppose. You can always email Husker and ask 
him if
> there's a way around that. He's a very nice dude.
> 
> 3-Are you sure you need Midi-OX for huskervu? Is it not Midi Yoke? 
Email
> Husker.
> 
> 4-For the Mackie Emu Mode with the BCR, try email Namihei. I guess 
you
> choose Mackie Control in Cubase after sending the sysex to one of 
the BCR
> presets, but it's only my guess.
> 
>  
> 
> Sorry I can't help you more, but you'll find answers at the KVR
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En 
nombre de kmxe
> Enviado el: lunes, 03 de abril de 2006 12:52
> Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> 
>  
> 
> Hey, 
> 
> i managed to find them, thanks for that. How the hell do you set 
it 
> up? Could you give me a step by step on this? ive installed the 
> programs, but im unsure as to how im to set up each part.
> 
> also, with the .NET Framework - does this force your XP to add a 
new 
> account to accomodate for this .NET Framework? Ive installed it, 
and 
> when i rebooted - i had to choose a user (i didnt set up my PC 
like 
> this beforehand)!
> 
> after reading the (very brief) instructions that came with the 
> huskerview, im guessing that i have to change some settings in the 
> MIDIOX program, which will allow the huskervu to 'see' this 
virtual 
> midi port - i have no idea how to do this.
> 
> with the mackie emulation - do i just load the sysex file (for 
> cubase) into the BCR, then add a 'Mackie' remote in the Devices 
page 
> in cubase? Ive done this - and the resulting page in the 
> cubase/devices screen looks bizaare to me. in either case, it 
seems 
> i have to have the MIDIOX setup properly first before i can use 
this 
> emulation - please help (again)!!!!!
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@> wrote:
> >
> > Have a look here:
> > 
> > http://www.kvraudio.com/
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://www.xmlconsulting.co.nz/husker/huskervu.htm
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://www.geocities.jp/mackicrokontrol/
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > http://www.opuslocus.com/lcxmu/  (Mac only)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Elea
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En 
> nombre de kmxe
> > Enviado el: domingo, 02 de abril de 2006 1:54
> > Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> > Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > hi Elea,
> > 
> > i hope its a free update, im not keen on paying for something 
for 
> 1 
> > little bug fix!
> > 
> > knob#6 - this was kinda strange. the problem ended up being the 
CC 
> > that it was transmitting. From memory i think it was 38 - as 
soon 
> as 
> > it was changed to something else, it worked. Are there 
particular 
> > CC's that SX3 reserve/doesnt like? but in either case, its no 
> longer 
> > a problem.
> > 
> > > The thing you describe about the push encoders happens to mine 
> > too. I think
> > > it isn't the unit, I think it's Cubase. 
> > 
> > perfect! you know what you have done for me? you've saved me 
> brining 
> > this unit to the store i bought it from (more than an hour away) 
> for 
> > the support guy to test it out overnight. at least you've 
cleared 
> > this up. i was testing it by assigning these push encoders to 
mute 
> > instead and it worked, so i couldnt work out why audio track 
> select 
> > mucks up.
> > 
> > Mackie Emulation - where do i get this? Ive been trying to find 
> it. 
> > And also this LCD soft display - i would like these (i think)! i 
> > remember reading that the Mackie Emulation was only available 
for 
> > the BCF.... but if its available for the BCR, and is highly 
> > recommened by users then ill give it a go. can you point me in 
the 
> > right direction?
> > 
> > thanks for clearing up some stuff... i can stop pulling my hair 
> out 
> > now!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kmxe
> > > 
> > > The xml thing is a known bug. For some reason Cubase Sx 
Generic 
> > Remote
> > > commits mistakes when transcribing the script. It'll probably 
be 
> > fixed in
> > > next version.
> > > 
> > > About your Knob #6, make sure it is really assigned to the 
> > controller you
> > > want. If you haven't changed the Learn/Edit/Store/Exit 
Function 
> > buttons,
> > > check manually in the unit if the assignment is really 
correct. 
> If 
> > not,
> > > reset the unit and BC-Edit and see if BC-Edit shows the 
correct 
> > parameters
> > > when reading your unit.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Another important thing is: do you have the latest Behringer 
> Midi 
> > Drivers
> > > and Firmware. Check the website and make sure you do.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > The thing you describe about the push encoders happens to mine 
> > too. I think
> > > it isn't the unit, I think it's Cubase. And I'll tell you why: 
> > When you use
> > > Mackie Control Emulation mode (which I really recommend. After 
> > doing
> > > templates and stuff I finally ended using it) it doesn't 
happen. 
> > Mackie
> > > Control Emulation mode uses HUI protocol. When you use the 
> Generic 
> > Remote
> > > Mode it happens. I just think the Cubase Generic Remote 
protocol 
> > is not yet
> > > fully implemented and developped. It is very recent too. 
They'll 
> > eventually
> > > fix it.
> > > 
> > > I've found that the only thing you can do about it is just to 
> wait 
> > for it to
> > > stop "dancing around". :-)
> > > 
> > > Do you use a USB connection? Try using a Midi connection only 
(S-
> 4 
> > mode) and
> > > see if it happens again. USB connection many times gives 
errors. 
> I 
> > began
> > > having an error from BC-Edit when trying to transfer sysex 
> files. 
> > After a
> > > lot of trying and searching I found out that in S-4 mode and 
> Midi 
> > connection
> > > only it works fine. So when I want toconfigure the unit I 
switch 
> > to Midi!!
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   _____  
> > > 
> > > De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] En 
> > nombre de kmxe
> > > Enviado el: viernes, 31 de marzo de 2006 13:15
> > > Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> > > Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Hi Elea,
> > > 
> > > this is exactly what was happening. actually i got some help 
> from 
> > > this guy in Canada who has been trying to help me. Eventually 
he 
> > > sent me a template for SX3 as a basic 8channel mixer control. 
> > > Needless to say it worked. I compared the 2 .xml files in word 
> pad 
> > > and noticed the difference in the flags numbering. when i 
> changed 
> > > my .xml file with these same numbers, it worked. ive been 
trying 
> > to 
> > > find a logical explanation for this, but i guess there is no 
> > logic - 
> > > Cubase just screws this part up. Is this a known bug?
> > > 
> > > anyways, now i have a problem with my push/rotary knob #6 in 
> > encoder 
> > > group 1. It doesnt matter what i assign it to it doesnt work. 
im 
> > > trying to figure out what could be causing it, but the more 
> tests 
> > i 
> > > do, the more i think i have a faulty unit.
> > > 
> > > Another thing, this guy from Canada, set up the 1st 8 push 
> > > button/rotary knobs (encoder group 1) to select the audio 
track 
> > > (between 1-8). So by pressing the 2nd knob in encoder group 1, 
> > Audio 
> > > track 2 is selected. However, it doesnt always work properly. 
> what 
> > > sometimes happens is that i press 1 of these push/rotary knobs 
> > (say 
> > > number 3) and sx3 selects audio track 3, but then it would 
> select 
> > > audio track 2, and sometimes bounce back to audio track 3 - 
this 
> > is 
> > > all with 1 press of the push/rotary knob. its almost as if sx3 
> > > receives a message from 1 of the other push/rotary knobs to 
> select 
> > a 
> > > different track. i wonder if you could try to set up 1 row of 
> your 
> > > push/rotary knobs to select audio tracks, and see if the same 
> > thing 
> > > happens to you. 
> > > 
> > > i cannot think of why it would jump between selecting 
tracks.... 
> > it 
> > > just doesnt make sense. 
> > > 
> > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Elea" <eleavampas@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Kmxe
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Cubase SX Generic Remote commits  mistakes when recording 
the 
> > > assignment
> > > > script (xml file). I don't know if this is your problem but 
> give 
> > > it a try:
> > > > 
> > > > Open the xml file with Notepad.  There are 2 sections: the 
> first 
> > > one begins
> > > > with:
> > > > 
> > > > <ctrltable name="Standard MIDI">
> > > > 
> > > > And finishes with
> > > > 
> > > > </ctrltable>
> > > > 
> > > > It defines the BCR/BCF buttons/faders/knobs and their Midi 
> > > assignment. All
> > > > your NRPN buttons/knobs should look something like this:
> > > > 
> > > > <ctrl><name>Fader
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
1</name><stat>2</stat><chan>0</chan><addr>900</addr><max>999</max><fl
> > > ags>19<
> > > > /flags></ctrl>
> > > > 
> > > > Underlined is the adress for this controller. This is the 
> adress 
> > > you give
> > > > your button/knob when configuring it in BC-Edit (or 
manually).
> > > > 
> > > > In bold, you can see what defines NRPN 14bits controllers. 
> > Cubase 
> > > SX Generic
> > > > Remote sometimes does not write these correctly to the xml 
> file. 
> > > So if you
> > > > want NRPN 14 bits you need stat set to 2 and flags set to 
19. 
> If 
> > > you want
> > > > normal CCs or other standard Midi controller stat needs to 
be 
> > 176 
> > > and flags
> > > > 3.
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Of course this is completely useless if it's not mirrored on 
> > your 
> > > unit.
> > > > Let's say you have set the first knob to be a 14 bits 
encoder 
> in 
> > > Cubase, but
> > > > on your unit it's set to a CC, needless to say things won't 
> work.
> > > > 
> > > > So first decide what your unit is going to be like, program 
it 
> > > either with
> > > > BC-Edit or manually so that the controllers on your xml file 
> > will 
> > > match the
> > > > unit's. Then assign these controllers to Cubase Generic 
Remote 
> > > either
> > > > entering them or using the function Learn. Check the xml 
file 
> in 
> > > Notepad.
> > > > Then assign functions in Cubase. This is done in the second 
> > > section of the
> > > > xml file. It begins with 
> > > > 
> > > > <bank name="mybankname">
> > > > 
> > > > And finishes with
> > > > 
> > > > </bank>
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Good luck
> > > > 
> > > > Elea
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >   _____  
> > > > 
> > > > De: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] 
En 
> > > nombre de kmxe
> > > > Enviado el: jueves, 30 de marzo de 2006 9:35
> > > > Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Asunto: [Norton AntiSpam] [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Are you updated to the latest version of the BCR OS?  Do 
you 
> > > have 
> > > > Java 1.4 
> > > > > instead of 1.5? (You want Java 1.4)  
> > > > 
> > > > yes & yes
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >Are you sure that you have been 
> > > > > successful in loading the configuration that you designed 
> > using 
> > > > BCEdit to 
> > > > > the BCR?  
> > > > 
> > > > im as sure as i can be
> > > > 
> > > > >The only easy way for you to test is to attempt to control 
> some 
> > > > > other program via NRPN's, and see if it doesn't work 
> > anywhere..  
> > > > 
> > > > ill see what i can find out
> > > > 
> > > > thanks for your help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > From: "kmxe" <kmxeproductions@>
> > > > > To: <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 1:20 AM
> > > > > Subject: [bc2000] Re: NRPN's with SX3
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > hi eric, thanks for the reply. i already know how to 
tell 
> > > cubase
> > > > > > what to do via CC's. ive had no probs with this - it's 
> using 
> > > > NRPN's
> > > > > > that i'm having problems with. i had a guy via MSN tell 
me 
> > > step 
> > > > by
> > > > > > step what he does, and i set it up exactly like my first 
> > post -
> > > 
> > > > for
> > > > > > him it worked, for me it hasn't. i'm wondering if there 
is 
> a 
> > > way 
> > > > to
> > > > > > prove or disprove that my BCR is faulty. ive read and re-
> > read 
> > > > both
> > > > > > manuals and cannot find anything else that im not doing. 
> as 
> > > per 
> > > > my
> > > > > > post, im already trying to set things up via the generic 
> > > remote.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > do you have any ideas as to what I could be doing wrong? 
> if 
> > a 
> > > > person
> > > > > > on the other side of the world set up his system which 
> > worked, 
> > > > and
> > > > > > then gave me the exact same settings and it didnt work, 
i 
> > can 
> > > > only
> > > > > > conclude that it's either i have some settings or 
> > preferences 
> > > > thats
> > > > > > preventing me making this work, or the unit is faulty. 
if 
> > > there 
> > > > is a
> > > > > > third possibility - i cant think of it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Bowen" 
<erik.bowen@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> In SX, open the "Devices" drop down menu, 
select "Device 
> > > Setup",
> > > > > > then in the
> > > > > >> left portion of this window select "Remote Devices > 
> Generic
> > > > > > Remote".
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Then, read the part of the SX help file entitled "The 
> > Generic
> > > > > > Remote" to
> > > > > >> learn how to tell Cubase what to do when it receives 
> > > information
> > > > > > on each CC#
> > > > > >> that you want to use to control SX.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > >> From: "kmxe" <kmxeproductions@>
> > > > > >> To: <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 5:13 AM
> > > > > >> Subject: [bc2000] NRPN's with SX3
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > ive tried and tried for the past week to control SX3 
> > > > parameters
> > > > > > via
> > > > > >> > NRPN's to take advantage of the "14 bit resolution". 
> Now, 
> > > im 
> > > > not
> > > > > >> > very good with MIDI, so im not even sure if im 
wording 
> > > things
> > > > > >> > correctly. This is the settings ive tried:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > MIDI Date Type: NRPN
> > > > > >> > Send channel: 1
> > > > > >> > NRPN no.: 1
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Ctrl Mode: Absolute 14bit (ive tried all the other 
just 
> > in 
> > > > case)
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > in SX3 via the Generic Remote
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > MIDI Input: BCR2000
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > MIDI Status: CTRL NRPN
> > > > > >> > MIDI Channel: 1
> > > > > >> > Address: 1
> > > > > >> > Flags: R,T
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Since i havent done this before, ive basically taken 
an 
> > > > educated
> > > > > >> > guess based on me being able to control the 
parameters 
> > via 
> > > > CC's,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > >> > whatever i can find on the net.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > i need someone to set the record straight for me, im 
> > losing 
> > > > sleep
> > > > > >> > over this!!!!!
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ic+instrument+sale&w5=Bcf2000&w6=Online+music+instrument&c=6&s=154&.sig=PjvD
93dnSpDXFoRwfR1wYg>  music online store 


Music
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Music+instrument+sale&w1=Music+instrume
nts&w2=Electronic+instrument&w3=Instrument+music+online+store&w4=Music+instr
ument+sale&w5=Bcf2000&w6=Online+music+instrument&c=6&s=154&.sig=Mgcrv3Chc4r9
-v7m1044xQ>  instrument sale 

Bcf2000
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Bcf2000&w1=Music+instruments&w2=Electro
nic+instrument&w3=Instrument+music+online+store&w4=Music+instrument+sale&w5=
Bcf2000&w6=Online+music+instrument&c=6&s=154&.sig=Ws5Op_i4XQdA77_yR5xgWw>  

Online
<http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&k=Online+music+instrument&w1=Music+instru
ments&w2=Electronic+instrument&w3=Instrument+music+online+store&w4=Music+ins
trument+sale&w5=Bcf2000&w6=Online+music+instrument&c=6&s=154&.sig=LKRYdZTfjI
5zoQWJd2D5dQ>  music instrument 

 

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