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Re: bcr2000 problem in cubase. Please help me.

2008-09-11 by goyya76

i'm happy to see it's useful...it took me months to understand and 
set up things on cubase, it's time to share the info (unfortunately i 
couldn't find the time to write something more comprehensive about 
it)!

also you can give a look at www.midevice.com - they too have a 
wrapper, i tried the first version and didn't like it, but the new 
one could deserve a try (just my opinion, of course!)

good luck :)



--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "joakim777el" <joakim777el@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much!!
> This is awsome information!
> 
> Have`nt had a chance to try it out yet, but I will let you know 
when 
> I have.
> 
> Peace!
> 
> Joakim 
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "goyya76" <goyya76@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joakim (and Royce) - Cubase user here, i ran into the same 
> problem 
> > lots of time ago and....unfortunately there's no way to overcome 
it 
> > with cubase ONLY!
> > 
> > When you set up the Generic Remote using plugin XYZ (say, with 10 
> > parameters) on slot 1, you are actually assigning CCs to the 
first 
> > ten parameters of WHATEVER plugin you load in insert 1 - if you 
> > replace XYZ with plugin ABC (for example, with 12 parameters) , 
the 
> > map you created for XYZ will control the first 10 parameters ONLY 
> of 
> > plugin ABC.
> > 
> > If you have a look at the .xml file created when you save the 
> generic 
> > remote, you will see there's no reference to XYZ, but only to 
slot 
> 1 -
> >  cubase actually assigns controllers to param 1,2,...,N of 
> > the "generic" plugin loaded in insert 1 (N being...for example, 
the 
> > 32 knobs, or whatever!).
> > 
> > You could create eight Generic Remote banks (INS1, INS2 etc), 
which 
> > is pretty simple if you look&edit the xml file (much better than 
> > using the setup page for the Generic Remote....)
> > 
> > CCs can be assigned to bank up/bank down commands and also to 
> > SPECIFIC banks (so you could use BCR buttons to select the 
correct 
> > bank) - also, you can set up TWO generic remotes with the same 
set 
> of 
> > CCs: this way you can assign the SAME controller to different 
> action 
> > (so the same button can OPEN the vst GUI and at the same time 
> select 
> > the correct bank)
> > 
> > The remaining issue is that a knob's "name" depends on the 
plugin: 
> > encoder 1 may be threshold for the compressor on slot 1 and 
chorus 
> > rate on slot 2, or threshold for compressor X and make up gain 
for 
> > compressor Y....and of course each plugin has his own list of 
> > parameters, and two FX of the same kind often have different 
> > parameters - almost always in a different order!
> > 
> > that's the workaround i found: use www asseca com mGUI to wrap 
your 
> > vst (youcan give them a new BCR like GUI and change the order of 
> > parameters, so you get everything done with visual feedback)...
> > 
> > i hope it helps, at the moment i'm at work so....i'll tell you 
> about 
> > mGUI in episode 2!
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Francesco
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "joakim777el" <joakim777el@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well. Thank you for answering anyway!
> > > I have gotten things to work like I wanted now. So that is cool.
> > > Exept ONE thing. Programming VST`s.. 
> > > If I set up a voxengo gliss eq on slot 1 in the cubase insert. 
> And 
> > > program it so everything works. I can still just control the eq 
> > while 
> > > it is in slot 1. This can be a problem for me since I almost 
> never 
> > > use the same plugins after eachother. Sometimes I compress 
before 
> > eq, 
> > > and sometimes the other way.
> > > 
> > > So my question is.. How can I program a plugin to work in slots 
1-
> 8 
> > > on the insert? And then I mean with the same controls.
> > > 
> > > thank you so much!
> > > 
> > > Joakim
> > > 
> > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Joakim
> > > > Sorry about the silence, I guess there aren't many Cubase 
users 
> > out
> > > > there so I have a stab at the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Was the question to stupid?
> > > > > Could not find the answer searching the forum.
> > > > > Any links replys would be nice.
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately I don't use Cubase or Blockfish (free VST 
> > Compressor),
> > > > but it sounds like a problem with Cubase or the VST not the 
BCR.
> > > > Does Cubase set the controller on a project by project basis?
> > > > If this is true then you should set up a template that has 
all 
> the
> > > > stuff connected and when you want to start a new piece load 
it 
> > and 
> > > do
> > > > a Save As before you start doing any thing else. (Backing it 
up 
> is
> > > > also probabaly a good thing as well)
> > > > 
> > > > Royce
> > > > 
> > > > > > I have a problem, houston!
> > > > > > I program a plugin (f.ex a blockfish) with genetic 
remote. 
> > And 
> > > I 
> > > > > > export it(just to make sure it dont go away). And I have 
> > > choosen 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > settings to be selectable so I can use the blochfish on 
> > several 
> > > > > > tracks wit the same controls. As long as I have choosen 
> that 
> > > track. 
> > > > > > And it works pretty well. 
> > > > > > But when I close the project and enter another one, I 
open 
> > the 
> > > > > > blockfish and it says not assigned on the control I JUST 
> > > assigned.
> > > > > > Very irritating..
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And is it a way that when I have two instances of 
blochfish 
> > on 
> > > two 
> > > > > > differerant tracks. That the lightsdiods/settings can 
> follow 
> > > when I 
> > > > > > switch tracks. It`s not so cool to turn the knobs and you 
> > want 
> > > to 
> > > > > > make a minor adjustment and it suddenly jumps to the 
> settings 
> > > in 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > previous track.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Got the bcr2000 yesterday and I like it!
> > > > > > Guess I just have to learn how to use it properly.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Peace!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Joakim
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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