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bcr2000 problem in cubase. Please help me.

bcr2000 problem in cubase. Please help me.

2008-09-03 by joakim777el

I have a problem, houston!
I program a plugin (f.ex a blockfish) with genetic remote. And I 
export it(just to make sure it dont go away). And I have choosen the 
settings to be selectable so I can use the blochfish on several 
tracks wit the same controls. As long as I have choosen that track. 
And it works pretty well. 
But when I close the project and enter another one, I open the 
blockfish and it says not assigned on the control I JUST assigned.
Very irritating..

And is it a way that when I have two instances of blochfish on two 
differerant tracks. That the lightsdiods/settings can follow when I 
switch tracks. It`s not so cool to turn the knobs and you want to 
make a minor adjustment and it suddenly jumps to the settings in the 
previous track.

Got the bcr2000 yesterday and I like it!
Guess I just have to learn how to use it properly.

Peace!

Joakim

Re: bcr2000 problem in cubase. Please help me.

2008-09-04 by joakim777el

Was the question to stupid?
Could not find the answer searching the forum.
Any links replys would be nice.


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "joakim777el" <joakim777el@...> wrote:
>
> I have a problem, houston!
> I program a plugin (f.ex a blockfish) with genetic remote. And I 
> export it(just to make sure it dont go away). And I have choosen 
the 
> settings to be selectable so I can use the blochfish on several 
> tracks wit the same controls. As long as I have choosen that track. 
> And it works pretty well. 
> But when I close the project and enter another one, I open the 
> blockfish and it says not assigned on the control I JUST assigned.
> Very irritating..
> 
> And is it a way that when I have two instances of blochfish on two 
> differerant tracks. That the lightsdiods/settings can follow when I 
> switch tracks. It`s not so cool to turn the knobs and you want to 
> make a minor adjustment and it suddenly jumps to the settings in 
the 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> previous track.
> 
> Got the bcr2000 yesterday and I like it!
> Guess I just have to learn how to use it properly.
> 
> Peace!
> 
> Joakim
>

Re: bcr2000 problem in cubase. Please help me.

2008-09-04 by rpcfender

Hi Joakim
Sorry about the silence, I guess there aren't many Cubase users out
there so I have a stab at the problem.
>
> Was the question to stupid?
> Could not find the answer searching the forum.
> Any links replys would be nice.

Unfortunately I don't use Cubase or Blockfish (free VST Compressor),
but it sounds like a problem with Cubase or the VST not the BCR.
Does Cubase set the controller on a project by project basis?
If this is true then you should set up a template that has all the
stuff connected and when you want to start a new piece load it and do
a Save As before you start doing any thing else. (Backing it up is
also probabaly a good thing as well)

Royce
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > I have a problem, houston!
> > I program a plugin (f.ex a blockfish) with genetic remote. And I 
> > export it(just to make sure it dont go away). And I have choosen 
> the 
> > settings to be selectable so I can use the blochfish on several 
> > tracks wit the same controls. As long as I have choosen that track. 
> > And it works pretty well. 
> > But when I close the project and enter another one, I open the 
> > blockfish and it says not assigned on the control I JUST assigned.
> > Very irritating..
> > 
> > And is it a way that when I have two instances of blochfish on two 
> > differerant tracks. That the lightsdiods/settings can follow when I 
> > switch tracks. It`s not so cool to turn the knobs and you want to 
> > make a minor adjustment and it suddenly jumps to the settings in 
> the 
> > previous track.
> > 
> > Got the bcr2000 yesterday and I like it!
> > Guess I just have to learn how to use it properly.
> > 
> > Peace!
> > 
> > Joakim
> >
>

Re: bcr2000 problem in cubase. Please help me.

2008-09-08 by joakim777el

Well. Thank you for answering anyway!
I have gotten things to work like I wanted now. So that is cool.
Exept ONE thing. Programming VST`s.. 
If I set up a voxengo gliss eq on slot 1 in the cubase insert. And 
program it so everything works. I can still just control the eq while 
it is in slot 1. This can be a problem for me since I almost never 
use the same plugins after eachother. Sometimes I compress before eq, 
and sometimes the other way.

So my question is.. How can I program a plugin to work in slots 1-8 
on the insert? And then I mean with the same controls.

thank you so much!

Joakim

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Joakim
> Sorry about the silence, I guess there aren't many Cubase users out
> there so I have a stab at the problem.
> >
> > Was the question to stupid?
> > Could not find the answer searching the forum.
> > Any links replys would be nice.
> 
> Unfortunately I don't use Cubase or Blockfish (free VST Compressor),
> but it sounds like a problem with Cubase or the VST not the BCR.
> Does Cubase set the controller on a project by project basis?
> If this is true then you should set up a template that has all the
> stuff connected and when you want to start a new piece load it and 
do
> a Save As before you start doing any thing else. (Backing it up is
> also probabaly a good thing as well)
> 
> Royce
> 
> > > I have a problem, houston!
> > > I program a plugin (f.ex a blockfish) with genetic remote. And 
I 
> > > export it(just to make sure it dont go away). And I have 
choosen 
> > the 
> > > settings to be selectable so I can use the blochfish on several 
> > > tracks wit the same controls. As long as I have choosen that 
track. 
> > > And it works pretty well. 
> > > But when I close the project and enter another one, I open the 
> > > blockfish and it says not assigned on the control I JUST 
assigned.
> > > Very irritating..
> > > 
> > > And is it a way that when I have two instances of blochfish on 
two 
> > > differerant tracks. That the lightsdiods/settings can follow 
when I 
> > > switch tracks. It`s not so cool to turn the knobs and you want 
to 
> > > make a minor adjustment and it suddenly jumps to the settings 
in 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > the 
> > > previous track.
> > > 
> > > Got the bcr2000 yesterday and I like it!
> > > Guess I just have to learn how to use it properly.
> > > 
> > > Peace!
> > > 
> > > Joakim
> > >
> >
>

Re: bcr2000 problem in cubase. Please help me.

2008-09-09 by goyya76

Hi Joakim (and Royce) - Cubase user here, i ran into the same problem 
lots of time ago and....unfortunately there's no way to overcome it 
with cubase ONLY!

When you set up the Generic Remote using plugin XYZ (say, with 10 
parameters) on slot 1, you are actually assigning CCs to the first 
ten parameters of WHATEVER plugin you load in insert 1 - if you 
replace XYZ with plugin ABC (for example, with 12 parameters) , the 
map you created for XYZ will control the first 10 parameters ONLY of 
plugin ABC.

If you have a look at the .xml file created when you save the generic 
remote, you will see there's no reference to XYZ, but only to slot 1 -
 cubase actually assigns controllers to param 1,2,...,N of 
the "generic" plugin loaded in insert 1 (N being...for example, the 
32 knobs, or whatever!).

You could create eight Generic Remote banks (INS1, INS2 etc), which 
is pretty simple if you look&edit the xml file (much better than 
using the setup page for the Generic Remote....)

CCs can be assigned to bank up/bank down commands and also to 
SPECIFIC banks (so you could use BCR buttons to select the correct 
bank) - also, you can set up TWO generic remotes with the same set of 
CCs: this way you can assign the SAME controller to different action 
(so the same button can OPEN the vst GUI and at the same time select 
the correct bank)

The remaining issue is that a knob's "name" depends on the plugin: 
encoder 1 may be threshold for the compressor on slot 1 and chorus 
rate on slot 2, or threshold for compressor X and make up gain for 
compressor Y....and of course each plugin has his own list of 
parameters, and two FX of the same kind often have different 
parameters - almost always in a different order!

that's the workaround i found: use www asseca com mGUI to wrap your 
vst (youcan give them a new BCR like GUI and change the order of 
parameters, so you get everything done with visual feedback)...

i hope it helps, at the moment i'm at work so....i'll tell you about 
mGUI in episode 2!

Take care,
Francesco



--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "joakim777el" <joakim777el@...> wrote:
>
> Well. Thank you for answering anyway!
> I have gotten things to work like I wanted now. So that is cool.
> Exept ONE thing. Programming VST`s.. 
> If I set up a voxengo gliss eq on slot 1 in the cubase insert. And 
> program it so everything works. I can still just control the eq 
while 
> it is in slot 1. This can be a problem for me since I almost never 
> use the same plugins after eachother. Sometimes I compress before 
eq, 
> and sometimes the other way.
> 
> So my question is.. How can I program a plugin to work in slots 1-8 
> on the insert? And then I mean with the same controls.
> 
> thank you so much!
> 
> Joakim
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joakim
> > Sorry about the silence, I guess there aren't many Cubase users 
out
> > there so I have a stab at the problem.
> > >
> > > Was the question to stupid?
> > > Could not find the answer searching the forum.
> > > Any links replys would be nice.
> > 
> > Unfortunately I don't use Cubase or Blockfish (free VST 
Compressor),
> > but it sounds like a problem with Cubase or the VST not the BCR.
> > Does Cubase set the controller on a project by project basis?
> > If this is true then you should set up a template that has all the
> > stuff connected and when you want to start a new piece load it 
and 
> do
> > a Save As before you start doing any thing else. (Backing it up is
> > also probabaly a good thing as well)
> > 
> > Royce
> > 
> > > > I have a problem, houston!
> > > > I program a plugin (f.ex a blockfish) with genetic remote. 
And 
> I 
> > > > export it(just to make sure it dont go away). And I have 
> choosen 
> > > the 
> > > > settings to be selectable so I can use the blochfish on 
several 
> > > > tracks wit the same controls. As long as I have choosen that 
> track. 
> > > > And it works pretty well. 
> > > > But when I close the project and enter another one, I open 
the 
> > > > blockfish and it says not assigned on the control I JUST 
> assigned.
> > > > Very irritating..
> > > > 
> > > > And is it a way that when I have two instances of blochfish 
on 
> two 
> > > > differerant tracks. That the lightsdiods/settings can follow 
> when I 
> > > > switch tracks. It`s not so cool to turn the knobs and you 
want 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> to 
> > > > make a minor adjustment and it suddenly jumps to the settings 
> in 
> > > the 
> > > > previous track.
> > > > 
> > > > Got the bcr2000 yesterday and I like it!
> > > > Guess I just have to learn how to use it properly.
> > > > 
> > > > Peace!
> > > > 
> > > > Joakim
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: bcr2000 problem in cubase. Please help me.

2008-09-10 by joakim777el

Thank you so much!!
This is awsome information!

Have`nt had a chance to try it out yet, but I will let you know when 
I have.

Peace!

Joakim 

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "goyya76" <goyya76@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Joakim (and Royce) - Cubase user here, i ran into the same 
problem 
> lots of time ago and....unfortunately there's no way to overcome it 
> with cubase ONLY!
> 
> When you set up the Generic Remote using plugin XYZ (say, with 10 
> parameters) on slot 1, you are actually assigning CCs to the first 
> ten parameters of WHATEVER plugin you load in insert 1 - if you 
> replace XYZ with plugin ABC (for example, with 12 parameters) , the 
> map you created for XYZ will control the first 10 parameters ONLY 
of 
> plugin ABC.
> 
> If you have a look at the .xml file created when you save the 
generic 
> remote, you will see there's no reference to XYZ, but only to slot 
1 -
>  cubase actually assigns controllers to param 1,2,...,N of 
> the "generic" plugin loaded in insert 1 (N being...for example, the 
> 32 knobs, or whatever!).
> 
> You could create eight Generic Remote banks (INS1, INS2 etc), which 
> is pretty simple if you look&edit the xml file (much better than 
> using the setup page for the Generic Remote....)
> 
> CCs can be assigned to bank up/bank down commands and also to 
> SPECIFIC banks (so you could use BCR buttons to select the correct 
> bank) - also, you can set up TWO generic remotes with the same set 
of 
> CCs: this way you can assign the SAME controller to different 
action 
> (so the same button can OPEN the vst GUI and at the same time 
select 
> the correct bank)
> 
> The remaining issue is that a knob's "name" depends on the plugin: 
> encoder 1 may be threshold for the compressor on slot 1 and chorus 
> rate on slot 2, or threshold for compressor X and make up gain for 
> compressor Y....and of course each plugin has his own list of 
> parameters, and two FX of the same kind often have different 
> parameters - almost always in a different order!
> 
> that's the workaround i found: use www asseca com mGUI to wrap your 
> vst (youcan give them a new BCR like GUI and change the order of 
> parameters, so you get everything done with visual feedback)...
> 
> i hope it helps, at the moment i'm at work so....i'll tell you 
about 
> mGUI in episode 2!
> 
> Take care,
> Francesco
> 
> 
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "joakim777el" <joakim777el@> wrote:
> >
> > Well. Thank you for answering anyway!
> > I have gotten things to work like I wanted now. So that is cool.
> > Exept ONE thing. Programming VST`s.. 
> > If I set up a voxengo gliss eq on slot 1 in the cubase insert. 
And 
> > program it so everything works. I can still just control the eq 
> while 
> > it is in slot 1. This can be a problem for me since I almost 
never 
> > use the same plugins after eachother. Sometimes I compress before 
> eq, 
> > and sometimes the other way.
> > 
> > So my question is.. How can I program a plugin to work in slots 1-
8 
> > on the insert? And then I mean with the same controls.
> > 
> > thank you so much!
> > 
> > Joakim
> > 
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Joakim
> > > Sorry about the silence, I guess there aren't many Cubase users 
> out
> > > there so I have a stab at the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Was the question to stupid?
> > > > Could not find the answer searching the forum.
> > > > Any links replys would be nice.
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately I don't use Cubase or Blockfish (free VST 
> Compressor),
> > > but it sounds like a problem with Cubase or the VST not the BCR.
> > > Does Cubase set the controller on a project by project basis?
> > > If this is true then you should set up a template that has all 
the
> > > stuff connected and when you want to start a new piece load it 
> and 
> > do
> > > a Save As before you start doing any thing else. (Backing it up 
is
> > > also probabaly a good thing as well)
> > > 
> > > Royce
> > > 
> > > > > I have a problem, houston!
> > > > > I program a plugin (f.ex a blockfish) with genetic remote. 
> And 
> > I 
> > > > > export it(just to make sure it dont go away). And I have 
> > choosen 
> > > > the 
> > > > > settings to be selectable so I can use the blochfish on 
> several 
> > > > > tracks wit the same controls. As long as I have choosen 
that 
> > track. 
> > > > > And it works pretty well. 
> > > > > But when I close the project and enter another one, I open 
> the 
> > > > > blockfish and it says not assigned on the control I JUST 
> > assigned.
> > > > > Very irritating..
> > > > > 
> > > > > And is it a way that when I have two instances of blochfish 
> on 
> > two 
> > > > > differerant tracks. That the lightsdiods/settings can 
follow 
> > when I 
> > > > > switch tracks. It`s not so cool to turn the knobs and you 
> want 
> > to 
> > > > > make a minor adjustment and it suddenly jumps to the 
settings 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > in 
> > > > the 
> > > > > previous track.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Got the bcr2000 yesterday and I like it!
> > > > > Guess I just have to learn how to use it properly.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Peace!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joakim
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: bcr2000 problem in cubase. Please help me.

2008-09-11 by goyya76

i'm happy to see it's useful...it took me months to understand and 
set up things on cubase, it's time to share the info (unfortunately i 
couldn't find the time to write something more comprehensive about 
it)!

also you can give a look at www.midevice.com - they too have a 
wrapper, i tried the first version and didn't like it, but the new 
one could deserve a try (just my opinion, of course!)

good luck :)



--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "joakim777el" <joakim777el@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much!!
> This is awsome information!
> 
> Have`nt had a chance to try it out yet, but I will let you know 
when 
> I have.
> 
> Peace!
> 
> Joakim 
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "goyya76" <goyya76@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joakim (and Royce) - Cubase user here, i ran into the same 
> problem 
> > lots of time ago and....unfortunately there's no way to overcome 
it 
> > with cubase ONLY!
> > 
> > When you set up the Generic Remote using plugin XYZ (say, with 10 
> > parameters) on slot 1, you are actually assigning CCs to the 
first 
> > ten parameters of WHATEVER plugin you load in insert 1 - if you 
> > replace XYZ with plugin ABC (for example, with 12 parameters) , 
the 
> > map you created for XYZ will control the first 10 parameters ONLY 
> of 
> > plugin ABC.
> > 
> > If you have a look at the .xml file created when you save the 
> generic 
> > remote, you will see there's no reference to XYZ, but only to 
slot 
> 1 -
> >  cubase actually assigns controllers to param 1,2,...,N of 
> > the "generic" plugin loaded in insert 1 (N being...for example, 
the 
> > 32 knobs, or whatever!).
> > 
> > You could create eight Generic Remote banks (INS1, INS2 etc), 
which 
> > is pretty simple if you look&edit the xml file (much better than 
> > using the setup page for the Generic Remote....)
> > 
> > CCs can be assigned to bank up/bank down commands and also to 
> > SPECIFIC banks (so you could use BCR buttons to select the 
correct 
> > bank) - also, you can set up TWO generic remotes with the same 
set 
> of 
> > CCs: this way you can assign the SAME controller to different 
> action 
> > (so the same button can OPEN the vst GUI and at the same time 
> select 
> > the correct bank)
> > 
> > The remaining issue is that a knob's "name" depends on the 
plugin: 
> > encoder 1 may be threshold for the compressor on slot 1 and 
chorus 
> > rate on slot 2, or threshold for compressor X and make up gain 
for 
> > compressor Y....and of course each plugin has his own list of 
> > parameters, and two FX of the same kind often have different 
> > parameters - almost always in a different order!
> > 
> > that's the workaround i found: use www asseca com mGUI to wrap 
your 
> > vst (youcan give them a new BCR like GUI and change the order of 
> > parameters, so you get everything done with visual feedback)...
> > 
> > i hope it helps, at the moment i'm at work so....i'll tell you 
> about 
> > mGUI in episode 2!
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Francesco
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "joakim777el" <joakim777el@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well. Thank you for answering anyway!
> > > I have gotten things to work like I wanted now. So that is cool.
> > > Exept ONE thing. Programming VST`s.. 
> > > If I set up a voxengo gliss eq on slot 1 in the cubase insert. 
> And 
> > > program it so everything works. I can still just control the eq 
> > while 
> > > it is in slot 1. This can be a problem for me since I almost 
> never 
> > > use the same plugins after eachother. Sometimes I compress 
before 
> > eq, 
> > > and sometimes the other way.
> > > 
> > > So my question is.. How can I program a plugin to work in slots 
1-
> 8 
> > > on the insert? And then I mean with the same controls.
> > > 
> > > thank you so much!
> > > 
> > > Joakim
> > > 
> > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Joakim
> > > > Sorry about the silence, I guess there aren't many Cubase 
users 
> > out
> > > > there so I have a stab at the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Was the question to stupid?
> > > > > Could not find the answer searching the forum.
> > > > > Any links replys would be nice.
> > > > 
> > > > Unfortunately I don't use Cubase or Blockfish (free VST 
> > Compressor),
> > > > but it sounds like a problem with Cubase or the VST not the 
BCR.
> > > > Does Cubase set the controller on a project by project basis?
> > > > If this is true then you should set up a template that has 
all 
> the
> > > > stuff connected and when you want to start a new piece load 
it 
> > and 
> > > do
> > > > a Save As before you start doing any thing else. (Backing it 
up 
> is
> > > > also probabaly a good thing as well)
> > > > 
> > > > Royce
> > > > 
> > > > > > I have a problem, houston!
> > > > > > I program a plugin (f.ex a blockfish) with genetic 
remote. 
> > And 
> > > I 
> > > > > > export it(just to make sure it dont go away). And I have 
> > > choosen 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > settings to be selectable so I can use the blochfish on 
> > several 
> > > > > > tracks wit the same controls. As long as I have choosen 
> that 
> > > track. 
> > > > > > And it works pretty well. 
> > > > > > But when I close the project and enter another one, I 
open 
> > the 
> > > > > > blockfish and it says not assigned on the control I JUST 
> > > assigned.
> > > > > > Very irritating..
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And is it a way that when I have two instances of 
blochfish 
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> > on 
> > > two 
> > > > > > differerant tracks. That the lightsdiods/settings can 
> follow 
> > > when I 
> > > > > > switch tracks. It`s not so cool to turn the knobs and you 
> > want 
> > > to 
> > > > > > make a minor adjustment and it suddenly jumps to the 
> settings 
> > > in 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > previous track.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Got the bcr2000 yesterday and I like it!
> > > > > > Guess I just have to learn how to use it properly.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Peace!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Joakim
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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