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Re: NRPN resolution: Micron

2008-09-17 by hubert_langlois

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Hubert
> > It might help if you post your .tx also.
> 
> Are you using an editor?
> Normally it is better if you can post some of the script that isn't
> working 
> 
> > > I've made a template for my Alesis Micron with the original
Behringer
> > > (crap) editor. This worked. Next I've adapted this template in
> > > BCRManager and experimented a bit with the resolution controls.
Since
> > > then I've encountered some problems with the resolution i.e. the bcr
> > > tends to skip values which translates in hearable stepping. This
also
> > > happens with parameters I only changed the name, nothing else. Even
> > > lower resolutions (e.g. 96), lower then previous settings are giving
> > > this problem. I did check the documentation and experimented with
> > > ifferent values. Someone knows a way to solve this? The format
for the
> > > Micron is 14-bit NRPN. 
> 
> You might like to try resolutions that are related to the default 96
> ie 96 / 2 = 48
> The encoders appear to have a physical resolution of 96.
> This is 3.75 degrees between values which can be a bit hard to control.
> 
> If you are editing using the script try
> .resolution 48 ; which is the same as .resolution 48 48 48 48
> 
> Setting it at 48 means you have to turn twice as far to get to the
> next value (7.5 degrees). You could try 24 or 12 or 6 etc
> 
> Let me know how you get on.
> There are quite a few posts on this subject that you might like to
> look through.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Royce
>


Thanks everyone for your answers. I haven't been able to work any
further on this issue until recently; my apologies for the late
feedback. Last few days I did some extensive testing with Midi-Ox to
see where exactly the problem was and what the exact Midi output was.
It seems that the problem is global for the BCR2000 and not only
concerning NRPN parameters. 

> The encoders appear to have a physical resolution of 96.
> This is 3.75 degrees between values which can be a bit hard to control.

If I interpret this well, this means that regardless how fast or how
slow a knob is twisted (when .resolution 96 and range 0-96, mode:
absolute) I should monitor 96 Midi messages in Midi-Ox. So I set up a
CC message , put the .resolution 96 and noticed that Midi-Ox was only
receiving +-6-10 Midi messages when turning the knob quite fast, when
turning at a slower rate it still didn't give me the full 96
resolution. Repeated tests in new templates showed the same result. I
tried all kind of setups, downgraded the OS, upgraded again, different
knobs etc...
Strange is that I remember not to have these issues when using the BCR
out of the box. They seem to have appeared after experimenting with
the resolution. 

> It might help if you post your .tx also.

By which you mean .txt? How can I attach such a file to my post (or
should I upload it to the files section?)

Kind regards,
Hubert

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