Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Mark, thank you for getting back to me. I have some follow up
questions from our message, you said:

"1. The BCR can send a fixed sequence of MIDI messages whenever you
select a preset (via the PRESET "<" and ">" buttons): in BC Manager,
check "Request" on the "Settings" tab of the preset dialog box, and
define the individual MIDI bytes on the "LEARN output" tab. Thus, you
can instruct a receiving MIDI device or program to send its current
settings to the BCR - but I don't know if Reaper can do this."

Okay, so what you are saying is that if I want feed back to hit my bcr
from the computer (with reaper, if it can), I need to check the
"Request" box under the preset settings tab in BC Manager. Correct? To
follow that up in addition with, entering in all of the Controls in
the "learn output" tab? If I do not do this though, your saying that
My bcr would not receive feedback even if Reaper supported sending it?
Correct? I ask because I've never used this function of the bc
manager, and in fact didn't know what it did specifically or how to
use it. The same goes for snapshot, cause that wouldn't work when I
tried it either.

But.....

2 important things... 1) How do I enter in all of the controls into
the "Learn output" tab of preset settings? For example what would
[Channel 1, cc123, min 0, max127] be? Or would I only have to Learn
output for [Channel 1, cc123]? What specifically would I have to
enter, and by what means? How do I enter it? What would be a couple
examples?: Channel 7, cc 45. Channel 3, cc 77. Is it any different
entering in a "learn output" for buttons or is that the same as encoders?

But once I have those two things done on a preset (check the "request
box" and learn the output for all of the controls) Then if I'm still
not getting feedback from reaper than it is because of the software
being restrictive? Correct? And what I would ask of them, would be to
send "standard output cc" to a midi out from the parameters? Do I need
to have a track send midi out or does the midi out just have to be
enabled you think?

Reaper recently updated to v2.55 with these updates listed....

    *  Fixed hang on MIDI bank/program file change
   
    * Fixed VST compatability with plug-ins that send MIDI events from
UI/etc
    
    * FX parameter MIDI learn: fixed updating of "set with selected
tracks" flag
    * FX preset loading, VST program changes now add undo points
    * Meta-actions to conditionally process actions based on the sign
of CC parameter value
    

Do any of these sound related to adding support for Reaper to send out
"standard output" when requested by a device?

Thank you again, I will try reading the bc midi implementations
manual. It looks like a hard read though. :P I'll do my best!

If I can't get reaper to work in the end, is there any software that
allows you to open a VST FX with mappings for all of it's parameter
controls (lets say at least up to 110) that supports sending the
currently selected fx's parameter controls via standard output cc to
the BCR for full duplex feedback? I really just want a large mixer
view to patch Adat thru with meters and fx easily viewable/accessible.
Reaper seemed great for this, with it's simple design, themes and
intuitive routing. I'm not looking for much else in terms of clutter.

-Mongoo

P.S. on a side note, can increment buttons increase in odd ways,
rather than by one singular number over and over?

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark van den Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:
>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "mongoomusic" <mongoomusic@> wrote:
> > If I have an encoder set to [cc123 on channel 1, min 0, max 127]. 
> > Would sending the message [channel one, cc123, value 96] from my
> > computer's audio software to the midi in port (usb/midi) of the
> > BCR2000 make that physical encoders LED jump to value 96?
> 
> Yes - at least if the encoder definition you're describing is what BC
> Manager calls a "standard output" definition: the BCR would NOT
> respond if this encoder definition has been created via the "CUSTOM
> output" protocol.
> 
> > Do I need to set a preset up special in BC Manager to do this or is
> > this automatically how it works with regular presets?
> 
> It works automatically this way for every "standard output"
> definition. (In fact, as far as I know, you can't even disable this
> behavior.)
> 
> Mark.
>