Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "martinseventy1" <m.grogan@> wrote:

Hello to everyone who has replyed to this thread.
Just though I'd give my thoughts on some of the issues raised.

I have decided to make the overlays non-adheasive for a few reasons

To allow the user to change the overlays quickly and easily.

If the overlays were sticky when not in use they would quickly get
covered in allsorts of stuff ie. fluff, hair, grit. They would soon
become unuseable.

The design of the overlays will fit well round the buttons and 
should hopefully 'lock' the overlay in place, however some blu-tack 
or thin double sided tape might be needed (I will know better once I 
have a prototype)

The thing about 'setting up' a die-cutter. The dies have to be 
specially made for each job and are custom.

All the overlays will be supplied blank, with scribble strips 
printed onto them (double height 10mm). The user can write on them 
as they please. They can be written on with a pencil/wax pencil to 
provide a wipe off, and reuse, or a pemanent marker and highlighter 
pen to provide colour and make the writing permanent.

I like the idear about using a home printer to print on them. This 
is infact a brilliant Idear (thanks mate). I will look into making a 
template of some sort maybe for word, as its the one I use and I 
think alot of people will have it installed.

I dont know of that plastic from the 80's (sounds good though). I am 
looking into getting thesr overlays made in .25mm plastic to allow 
decent clearance for the buttons.

I hope this has answered a few questions, thanks again the feedback 
has been invaluable, cheers

Martin


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Bowen" <erik.bowen@...> wrote:
>
> When I was a kid in the 80's, there were these toys that were 
basically a picture book with plastic pages, to which removable 
stickers could be stuck.  These removable stickers would hold pretty 
firmly to the plastic pages, but they also peeled cleanly off, and 
could be restuck with equal strength later.  
> 
> If anyone knows what type of material the plastic pages and the 
removable stickers were made out of, and knew a good way to print on 
the removable sticker material, this would be ideal for printing 
templates out on and using with the BCF/BCR.
> 
> Does anyone know of such a material or pair of materials?
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: desyre 
>   To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:44 PM
>   Subject: RE: [bc2000] Re: BCR Plastic Overlays
> 
> 
>   My thoughts:
> 
>   I just thought if someone could make up a die-cutter for the 
templates they
>   would be pretty easy to print on sticky backed laser printer (or 
better)
>   paper. I know I used the behringer templates to print on thick 
paper before
>   gluing to cereal box thickness card and then hand cutting out. 
And still
>   I've had to use blu-tack to keep them attached half decently to 
my bcr.
>   I only use my bcr in Mackie mode so there is never really any 
need for me to
>   change, but if I did, then removing the templates shouldn't 
prove too
>   difficult with any left over sticky/bits of card easily being 
taken off
>   with some lighter/art fluid and cotton wool.
>   The main thing is getting a nice edge, which took me a while 
with a scalpel
>   blade and still looks a bit amateurish, so if someone sould set 
up a die
>   cutter this would be excellent and I'd certainly buy - but like 
I said it
>   would be excellent to have them sticky backed (or optional 
depending on
>   others' thoughts).
>   Also it would be good to provide some with punch out die-
cut/perforated that
>   you could run through your home printer for your own customised 
layouts.
>   And for the pre printed and completely blank ones it might be 
good to have a
>   laminated/stick back plastic coated overlay - for protection for 
the presets
>   and for a wipe on wipe off for some customisable options?
>   Either way it would be great to colour code the shift and 
Page+/Page-
>   options throughout the presets just to help with a visual aid - 
I'm always
>   forgetting which button to press to change another's functions.
> 
>   Anyway just my thoughts - hope they help.
> 
>   Cheers
>   Craig.
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of
>   markus walter
>   Sent: 06 August 2006 11:52
>   To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: RE: [bc2000] Re: BCR Plastic Overlays
> 
>   generally i am also interested ;-)
>   so i wanna hear more of that :-)
> 
>   greets markus
> 
>   >From: "dreamwiz79" <andree_stara@...>
>   >Reply-To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
>   >Subject: [bc2000] Re: BCR Plastic Overlays
>   >Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 00:41:14 -0000
>   >
>   >I'm also very interested.
>   >
>   >Kindest regards
>   >
>   >Mr Andrée
>   >
>   >--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "martinseventy1" <m.grogan@> 
wrote:
>   > >
>   > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Moore <jmoore@> wrote:
>   > > >
>   > > >Hello Joshua,
>   > > >At this stage of development I really can't say who, or 
where they
>   > > >will be produced.
>   > > >
>   > > >Thanks for your interest though
>   > > >
>   > > >Cheers
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > Sounds like something I would be interested in. What 
company are
>   > > you
>   > > > considering for the manufacturing?
>   > > >
>   > > > // Joshua Moore
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > > martinseventy1 wrote:
>   > > > > Hello,
>   > > > >
>   > > > > As a user of the bcr2000, I find it a hassle keeping 
track of
>   > > all my
>   > > > > preset maps(paper), when I actually find the paper, 
remembering
>   > > > > which encoder/ button does what....sound familiar?
>   > > > >
>   > > > > I am thinking about producing a plastic overlay (2 
part). This
>   > > will
>   > > > > be produced by a specialist manufacturing company.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > The overlay will be die-cut and will have scribble 
strips (mark
>   > > with
>   > > > > a wax/pencil to re-use, or permanent marker) for the 
users to
>   > > write
>   > > > > in the functions they have configured. you could even 
highlight
>   > > > > different sections for osc1, osc2, filters, efx.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > With the design and manufacturing proscesses I am 
looking at a
>   > > price
>   > > > > of about £15 for a set of 5 (2-part) overlays.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Please let me know what you all think of this idear, 
would you
>   > > be
>   > > > > prepared to buy any of these?
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Ive read another thread on this but that was a few 
months ago,
>   > > any
>   > > > > comments will be usefull at this stage of development.
>   > > > >
>   > > > > Thanks
>   > > > >
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