Hi Royce,
I do need your help if possible. I am
including the PDF's for the equipment I want to control. I also want to keep the
presets down to a minimum.
Basic start off questions....
1. I want to use out A for the XV-2020 and out
B for the VL70M and then use the XV-2020 thru to control the EWI4000s.
Is that better than daisy chaining? I don't plan on
using the EWI4000 a lot but that will change as I get more comfortable with
it.
2. I want to select the different banks of
instruments in all devices. Should that be a separate encoder or
switch? The actual instrument selection within the bank would be
another encoder.
3. Should each of the devices I want to
control be on a separate preset?i.e.
VL70M on preset 1, XV-2020 on preset 2, and
EWI4000s on preset 3 or can I do everything from preset
1?
4. Can you show me an example of an
sysex edit to a switch and encoder?
5. What would the sysex message look
like to program all three devices to change key
simultaneously? Could that be done with an
encoder?
I have the BCR2000 now and I am ready to begin
programming but with so many options I don't know where to start. I have
connected the BCR2000 midi in to my sysex editor midi out and BCR2000 midi out A
to XV-2020 and BCR2000 midi out B to the VL70M. Also... How do you tell the
BCR2000 to output either to midi out A or B
I await your sysex string programming examples so I
can get started. Thanks Royce....Al
----- Original Message -----From: RoyceTo: Albert KingSent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:55 PMSubject: Re: BCR2000Hi Al
The BC2000 group
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000
Mark's web site
http://mntn-utils.110mb.com/
BC2000 Wiki - there is a bit of info here
http://bc2000.pingdynasty.com/
Behringer's site - who clearly should give me a commission :-)
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/BCR2000.aspx
All the best
Royce
Royce,I am definitely getting a BCR2000 now that I have heard this from you! Please send me Mark's website and the Yahoo BCR2000 address and I will start checking it out. I will order a BCR2000 this week and let you know when it gets here. I'm very excited....Best Al----- Original Message -----From: RoyceTo: Albert KingSent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:01 AMSubject: Re: You are the man!Hi Al
Mark and I have just about completely pulled apart this machine (and its 'fader' brother BCF2000). They are fantastic. Mind bogging on what you can program them to do.I want to thank you for being so helpful. I will follow your suggestion and contact Mark if I can find him. Sorry I didn't catch on that you're in Australia. I might buy a BCR2000 and be done with this hassle.... Is the BCR2000 easier to use and handle the longer sysex messages?
For some reason Behringer wont tell anyone what the BCR/BCF can really do. So Mark took all our info and wrote a compete guide including all the things Behringer didn't want you to know.
It is also on his web site.
There is heaps of stuff on the BC2000 yahoo group as well.
The total length of message is 125 bytes as I recall, which can be multiple sysex messages, so your XV 13 bytes + the VL70 message will easily fit.
You could put all 12 transpose keys on one rotary dial and it will even calculate the checksum Roland gear needs at the end of its sysex message.
After I completed my 'tech' editor Mark built a great graphic editor, which is much better and is available free at the Mountain Utilities site I sent you.
Someone gave him a Nano to play with (some people have a lot of spare cash :-) ) so he could write the Nano editor. I haven't ever used one so I am useless to you.
If you do get a BCR/BCF (also great for working with a DAW) let me know and I'll try to help you build the preset you need for your live setup.
Sunny Florida, sounds great, here in winter rainy Melbourne.Anyway, I hope I find someone who is doing what I am trying to do, with a quarter of the helpfulness that you have shown me.... If you are ever coming to Florida please let me know and maybe we can jam or something. You have been a great help to me. Thanks again. Al
Love the web page by the way. Very cool.
- A jazz player called 'Albert King'. Spooked me at first as the one I know has been dead for a few years now :-)
All the best
Royce
----- Original Message -----From: Royce CravenTo: Albert KingSent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:04 AMSubject: Re: You are the man!Hi Albert,
No the sysex is as it is.You can't change it.I am still struggling.... on the Yamaha VL70M you can get the command string by hitting "enter" twice in rapid succession and it gives the command string, which I used to program the Nano. The strings are only 9 pairs long including F0 and F7 example= F0 43 1F 57 00 00 06 3F F7. That's "C". The Nano accepts these strings no problem. The strings you gave me for the XV-2020 are 13 pairs and the Nano only accepts up to 11 pairs. The Nano is calling these strings "bad". Can the strings be shortened some how?
I don't have a Nano, so Mark (he wrote the editor) would be your best bet.
Try the Yahoo BC2000 group to get in touch with him .
The BCR2000 would do this easily, but I guess that won't help you.
If you are only using a few sounds you could reprogram each of the Patches with the transposition you need and save that.
ASax in C = User 1
TSax in C = User 2
..
ASax in C# = User 11
TSax in C# = User 12
..
ASax in D = User 21
TSax in D = User 22
..
etc.The preset edit could be the answer although it is a lot of editing. SorryTo further explain what I am trying to do..... I am playing my WX-5 using WX IN and my EWI4000s using midi. The Nano output midi is controlling my VL70M completely including volume, instrument selection, and all 12 keys of transpose. I have 3 presets and each preset I programmed 4 switches for a total of 12 for the 12 keys. The VL70M is my primary workhorse but I want to sometimes use my XV-2020 to layer or play certain instruments. I can select these instruments by hand and that's OK. My real requirement is to transpose the XV-2020 to match my VL70M key settings. I can quickly select an instrument using the knobs on the XV-2020 but changing key takes too long and is awkward during performances.
I'm in Australia and it would be a bit expensive as well as being out a time zone or 10 . Sorry.
maybe we could talk on the phone... (352-237-6708)East Coast if you don't mind. Thanks Best Al check out my website... http://aljazzmanking.com
All the best
Royce
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