Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

It's not channel 10 , it's Channel 11!!!

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Wicked" <face_sucker@...> wrote:
>
> I did some more tweaking with the BCR2000 last night.  Tried every
> channel, used BC Manager to mess with the SysEx a little bit, and then
> for the final test, I reprogrammed it to send a mod wheel controller
> to the YS200...  none of the above worked.  It's my BCR2000 afterall.
>  For some reason, it still works via USB, and I feel that I'm done
> with FM synthesis for a while anyway (at least until I can find a
> DX200 again), so I'm just going to sell the YS200 and get some more
> analogs.  Thanks a ton for the help, though!
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@> wrote:
> >
> > Most sysex headers have a byte to ID the manufacturer, the device and
> > device ID, but it is really up to the manufacture what he/she wants to
> > put in the sysex message.
> > 
> > If you had 2 TX81z with Midi going in one and through to the other, it
> > would be a good idea to be able to send sysex to one and not the other.
> > 
> > Early sysex used the Midi channel in the device byte, then came the
> > device ID, then the common channel. It is very flexible but very
> > confusing .
> > 
> > I have an old TQ5 sitting about so I dragged it out and wrote a preset
> > for it.
> > The sysex is the same for the TX81z but the TQ5 has a few more
> > features, like a pitch envelope and some FX stuff.
> > 
> > It should work for your TX81z on channel 1.
> > 
> > It's in the files section - in the the preset folder under TQ5.
> > 
> > Royce
> > 
> > 
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Wicked" <face_sucker@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I didn't realize that Yamaha's SysEx was channel dependent.  (You'll
> > > have to excuse me, but I'm still a newb to SysEx programming, hence
> > > why I've been looking for presets instead of making my own.  If these
> > > were CC's or NRPN, I'd have no trouble, but SysEx just pisses me off
> > > to no end.)  My YS200 is set to channel 16 currently, but when I get
> > > home, I can definitely give channel 10 a shot and see what happens. 
> > > Would the TX's recognize SysEx with the channel bytes stripped so that
> > > way somebody could reprogram the TX81Z presets to be a little more
> > > universal?
> > > 
> > > Thanks a ton for your help.  Thank god somebody can wrap their head
> > > around SysEx.  (I figured out FM synthesis, do I really need more
> > > complex mathematical languages laid on me!?)
> > > 
> > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Tx81z (or TQ5 in my case) sysex parameter format
> > > > 
> > > > $F0 sysex start
> > > > $43 Yamaha
> > > > $1n Sub status (TX81 types) where s = channel
> > > > $12 Voice or $13 additional voice parameters
> > > > value
> > > > $F7
> > > > 
> > > > If you have a look at the sysex in the preset, it is sending the 3rd
> > > > byte of $1A
> > > > 
> > > > Is your TX set up to be channel 10?
> > > > 
> > > > > Assuming that the TX81Z editor is valid, it should work just
> > fine (the
> > > > > site I ripped them off from was from an artist that used it
> > regularly,
> > > > > so if there's anything wrong, it's probably with my BCR2000.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > If the WT11 can take TX81Z patches, I don't foresee any problems. 
> > > > > I've got a YS200 keyboard that takes the same patches as the
> TX81Z,
> > > > > and though I still haven't gotten my BCR2000 to work properly in
> > this
> > > > > respect, I've got a software patch editor which works fine on
> > both the
> > > > > YS200 and the TX81Z.  Yamaha is pretty good about
> cross-integration
> > > > > with the different FM synths.  I just hope somebody gets the
> BCR2000
> > > > > to work for this function and that it is just my particular unit
> > > > > that's malfunctioning.  I don't mind buying another one, but
> > > > > otherwise, FM synthesis is going to have to take a permanent
> > leave of
> > > > > absence from my studio because I'm not going to be using a
> > computer in
> > > > > there anymore.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Martin Klang <mars@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > yes, sorry, the WT11!
> > > > > > It's the tone generator I got with my second-hand wx11
> electronic
> > > > wind  
> > > > > > instrument, and it's a little beaut.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It can load voices straight from a DX11 or TX81Z, but the WT11
> > has  
> > > > > > extremely limited editing capabilities itself.
> > > > > > Hm, reading the manual it says it is possible to edit  a
> > > performance  
> > > > > > using an external MIDI device, e.g. DX11.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now I just have to wire this up with 2 midi cables and a broken
> > > BCR  
> > > > > > usb connection...
> > > > > > Send preset, reconnect!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > /m
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 29 Apr 2008, at 18:17, ivaasura wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Martin Klang <mars@> wrote:
> > > > > > > Do you mean the DX11 or the WT11? The WX11 is a MIDI
> > > > saxophone... ;-)
> > > > > > > The DX11 should be compatible to the TX81Z, as it was it's
> > > keyboard
> > > > > > > version, but I do not know the WT11's sound architecture.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Something different: In the early nineties I once tried to
> > > > program my
> > > > > > > Kawai MM-16 controller for my TX81Z, I found out that
> there were
> > > > some
> > > > > > > errors in the sysex documentation of the manual. They
> mischanged
> > > > some
> > > > > > > parameters for one operator with the parameters of another...
> > > > > > >
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