Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Hello Royce,

thank you for your answer!
 
Like I said, I'm new to this complexer midi-stuff. I understand this resolution-changing-thing and it works. But more important is: even, when I have to do more turnarounds of an encoder, the level jumps shouldn't be so rough.

For Building this block of Midi-messages, like you said, I have to ask, because I think, I don't understand it good enough: 
Do you mean, I have to track the midi-messages of Fruityloops with a program like Midiox or BC-Manager? 

For this, I tried this:

1.) I installed LoopBe1. 
2.) In Fruityloops I selected System Settings > Midi > "Output"
3.) I selected "LoopBe Internal MIDI" as output (Channel 2)

4.) In BCManager I selected: 
OPTIONS > Midi Devices 
>> Input "loopbe INTERNAL MIDI".
>> Output "2BCF2000"
5.) BC-Manager Startscreen: VIEW > MIDI > Input messages (general)
>> RECORD.

When I restart Fruityloops some Messages from LoopBe are recorded, then it stops after 48 lines. This is recorded:

$B0 123 0
$B1 123 0
$B2 123 0
$B3 123 0
$B4 123 0
$B5 123 0
$B6 123 0
$B7 123 0
$B8 123 0
$B9 123 0
$BA 123 0
$BB 123 0
$BC 123 0
$BD 123 0
$BE 123 0
$BF 123 0
$B0 123 0
$B1 123 0
$B2 123 0
$B3 123 0
$B4 123 0
$B5 123 0
$B6 123 0
$B7 123 0
$B8 123 0
$B9 123 0
$BA 123 0
$BB 123 0
$BC 123 0
$BD 123 0
$BE 123 0
$BF 123 0
$B0 123 0
$B1 123 0
$B2 123 0
$B3 123 0
$B4 123 0
$B5 123 0
$B6 123 0
$B7 123 0
$B8 123 0
$B9 123 0
$BA 123 0
$BB 123 0
$BC 123 0
$BD 123 0
$BE 123 0
$BF 123 0
$B0 123 0
$B1 123 0
$B2 123 0
$B3 123 0
$B4 123 0
$B5 123 0
$B6 123 0
$B7 123 0
$B8 123 0
$B9 123 0
$BA 123 0
$BB 123 0
$BC 123 0
$BD 123 0
$BE 123 0
$BF 123 0

(LINE 48)

When I press play on the DAW it records some other values:

$FA
$F2 0 0
$FC
$F2 0 0
$FB
$F8
$F8
...

($F8 is continuous...)

Did I do it correct?

By the way: I tested your example, you described in the other post. On BC Managers Start screen: VIEW > MIDI > Input messages (general)and then I tweaked the encoder. For my test encoder in "preset 9" i get a output list like in your example.

Best,
juergen

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Royce" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> 
> > How can I get a 14 bit midi fader/knob resolution for the BCF2000 midi-controller? Especialy for Image-Lines "FL Studio" or the Arturia Synths.
> > Theoretically, like some said, it's possible to have smooth 14 bit resolution for the endless encoders and faders.
> 
> Faders have a max resolution much less than 16k - Midi values will jump
> 
> > At least with Arturia Moog Modular 14-bit midi controlling with BCF2000 is possible, like some people in Arturia forum wrote. (I asked the question there too, but didn't get a helping answer until now.)
> > For exsample: after changing the settings of BCF's encoders to 14 bit and set "Value 2" to 16383, in  Moog Modulars standalone-mode, knob-tweaking of filtersweeps are still 7-bit rough.
> 
> > I know there is a NRPN-Checkbox in MoogModularV and when I press learn on the software, BCF's knob is registered.
> > Then, I see in the BC display continous value changes like "...5083, 5084, 5085,..." and so on, till 16383, but I always hear just every 127 steps a frequency change and this change sounds still 7-bit-like.
> > I have to turnaround the BCF-encoder now many times more, but the precision and sonic result is the same like 7-Bit. 
> 
> Have a look in MidiOx or in Mark's editor to see the outputted Midi messages from the BC
> 
> >   .easypar NRPN 1 1 0 512 absolute/14
> 
> puts out (in a mix of hex and decimal) 
> 
> $B0 99 0
> $B0 98 1
> $B0  6 0
> $B0 38 1
> 
> $B0 99 0
> $B0 98 1
> $B0  6 0
> $B0 38 2
> .
> .
> .
> $B0 99 0
> $B0 98 1
> $B0  6 0
> $B0 38 127
> 
> $B0 99 0
> $B0 98 1
> $B0  6 1
> $B0 38 0
> etc
> 
> as you would expect
> 
> 
> 
> > The result is: after many turnarounds of the BC-encoder, MMV's filter knob turns still very slowly till it reaches a value of 32.60 Hz and when BCF's display reached a count of "512".
> 
> You can change the resolution of the encoder depending on the speed of rotation - 4 speeds
> 
> eg
> .resolution 96 200 400 1000
> 
> 
> > Side question:
> > I use BCF in U1 USB-mode. Is it better to connect it via MIDI to the port of my emu1212m Soundcard? Does this perhaps has influence on 14 bit resolution? 
> 
> No
> 
> > At least an answer that I should forget it, would help me, not to waste more time in trying this...
> 
> So I don't have to learn the ins and outs of these programs tell me what Midi messages they expect (like my above example) .
> 
> Use MidiOx to build a block of messages and output them (probably via MidiYoke) to make sure you are correct.
> Then post the messages here and we will see if we can help to get the BC to do it.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Royce
>