You can also run WINE on Mac OS X. (http://winebottler.kronenberg.org/) --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, sghookings@... wrote: > > Mark and Royce (and the nearly world famous German site) I want to "dank > u wel" for your efforts here.The summary is I went down the "hard" route > of using your sofware under Linux (WINE) and this lead to a "self help" > method for understanding how I can use your GUI to store presets. Until > now, I was missing the plot :-( > Thanks ... my issue now ... I recently discovered the upper 1-4 bankable > 24 buttons/8 knobs are PER preset :-).Why is this a problem? I now have > an interesting mathematical problem of optimally packing my low range > NRPNs/2xbuttons/2xknobs for -ve value NRPNs. That is I have way too many > controls now, so which important controls to duplicate, and how? > But what a fabulous problem to have :-)) > Background > I have a Miniak, which is a great synth but somewhat lacking > interface.It is okay, in terms of shortcut keys, but I coveted real > hardware. > Step 1 - dealing with low range NRPN values > You kindly helped me with the 7 bit NRPN ".tx" to send LSB.This has its > routes in Psionic's initial research in original > <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/message/2578> post. > I could never get the hang of the GUI, inspite of reading the excellent > manuals. And I was going to ask about how to send commands in the BCL > Editor to make current assignments apply to preset N. > I figured (incorrectly I see now) that the Miniak, being so stupidly > non-standard, rendered your GUI useless to me. > But on a different forum some Mac fanboy, who distrusts BCRs, was asking > similar questions (how to control a Miniak from external surface). > I explained the only surface I have found that is up to the job is the > BCR with your excellent software. Even then, one has to compromise to > use 2 knobs for control a -ve range (and it isnt quite a nice as one > would like). But I havent found another surface that will let one send > "MSB" 7bit value NRPNs as an "LSB" 7bit. Not evern ironically, any of > Alesis products (save the Ion) -- assuming I have understood their > manuals correctly.And as for a signed 14 bit ... the midi standard is > unsigned 14 bit!!! > Step 2 - flexible control surface > I have researched many control surfaces. Always I missed one or two > salient points, but luckily some internet searches and development of > Minaktools allowed me to understand the non-standard way Alesis (and > hence AKAI) coded the Miniak. > Without your collective software the BCR is of limited value for Miniak > programming.So these Mac fanboys, who for whatever reason suggest they > have the perfect environment / OS, are unable to use your software "as > is".I'd read in your manual that some folks have used WINE.Last night I > also did this under Wine 1.0.1 Ubuntu 10.X > I couldnt believe how trivial it was. Simply > * run wine, > * find the executable, > * and it "installs" it under it's virtual program files. > * Put BCR into USB mode (I chose 3), > * start BC Manager > * select the BCR as midi input/output. > * program up your assignments > * store this in the presets > * optionally dump out the complete sysex for backup purposes > "hey presto" there is the BCR. > Now, I know some die-hard Mac fan-boy will say "but I dont want to run > that silly unix like OS". Too bad, they are after all BSD with a GUI. > But looks like you can run wine "native" on a MAC > <http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX> . I havent tested this because I dont > have a Mac. > Else there is this parallels thing on Mac, so they could download an > Ubuntu and run that OS to run Wine to run the BCManager to allow the > control of the BCR to get the environment to program the Miniak!!! > Step 3 - "But how do you do these .tx from the GUI" > Mark you are a very patient person. I see the scientist in you, xref > each answer with a reference to the chapter of your manual. I confess to > still not quite understand the concept of standard def (easypar) v > custom (tx).Anyhow, I had watched the flash videos too but I still didnt > get how to custom program the GUI. > So I used the BCL editor to send some custom commands to > buttons/encoders/knobs.I spread these over a couple of presets (but did > it the manual way; your GUI is a far nicer way to achieve this ... I > mean it is after all why you created the software!). > Once I had gotten BCR running under linux, I realized there is a red > "receive" midi icon under the B-Control 2 (BCR2000): Presets > spreadsheet.And selecting a given preset, receiving the midi, will open > a new spreadsheet with the specific fields completed. > More than that, the layout screen is then also suitably completed. > And I can see "custom" in some of the group buttons (the very .tx I sent > via the BCL).And I can see straight NPRN address in other buttons. > Double clicking on a custom yields > Line Name Output1 $B0 $63 $002 $B0 $62 $0B3 $B0 > $06 $004 $B0 $26 val > Oh and value 1 is 0, value 2 is 2, sent to LSB (correct for waveform > osc1).Mode is downStandard output is NoneGeneral: show value is ticked > (and it does show value)Info has a name ... which is blank (but soon > will say Osc1Waveform) :-))And I can put comments in here too!! > If I click in Encoders 1 NRPN 12 (waveshape for miniak osc 1) > Info is blank (this will be rectified)General is show value, LEDs off > (might change this) Speed levels is 1.Standard output is Non-Registered > Parameter NumberChannel 1, NRPN 12 ($00 $0C)Value 1 : 16284 (-100)Value > 2: 16383 (-1)Mode: Absolute (14 bits) > Custom output: None. > At last I see what you were driving at in your earlier reply; sorry I > was being so dense. > Conclusions > I have "seen the GUI". > I now have enough inductive parameters to generalize, without hassling > you. > I hope others who were not sure about using BC Manager under linux will > realize it is trivial. And hopefully a Mac fanboy (I am using the > British trick that you rib your friends harder than your enemies :-)) > will be able to use/validate WINE works for them. > This mean other forums, that suggest the BCR isnt up to the job, doesnt > work on their OS etc etc, should be able to google that indeed it can. > Once again, thanks a lot. > Tot ziens > Steve H >
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Re: BCR Manager under WINE
2011-06-07 by WyleL
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