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Re: Can the bcr2000 filter out specific midi notes from a hardware midi tranmission?

2012-05-15 by twobeelandscape

Hi, I started to write a reply suggesting that you find a way to control the DR880 kit instrument levels via MIDI (p103 of the DR880 manual).  As far as I know, there is no way to use the BCR as a MIDI message filter.  But what you really need is to control the volume of individual voices in your hardware sound module - so the MIDI note messages still get through, they just don't sound.  What is the hardware expander unit? 

Bill

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "dgreenvalda" <dgreenvalda@...> wrote:
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> To explain this question: for example, I have a hardware drum machine (Boss DR-880) which has great drum patterns and sequences built in, but I don't much like the inbuilt sounds, so I use a separate hardware sound module, connected via midi for the actual drum sounds. This gives a fairly unique sound which I'm very happy with. This works very well if I program full drum song performances into the DR-880, but it doesn't really lend itself very well real-time performance, since the DR-880 generally doesn't allow you to edit patterns while in play mode. I can switch drums patterns in real-time – which is great, but I would love to be able to select a drum pattern on the DR-880 and just let it run, then have the ability to mute any choice of drum `notes' in real-time somehow, eg. while the drum pattern is playing I'd like to mute several drum sounds such as the snare(note # 38), and open high-hat(note # 46), and later while still in real-time play mode, un-mute them one after the other in any order, and do the same for any notes within the midi stream.
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> Of course there are other drum machines, sequencers, devices, software, and ways to make electronic music to get around this issue - and I do some of those things at times – but I really want to know if this particular setup can do what I have described above with the bcr2000 used as the device in between the DR-880 drum machine and the sound module to filter out midi notes.
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> Following experimentation, I tend to think it isn't possible with the bcr2000, since in modes `S-1' to `S-3' the unit merges incoming midi notes with any performance data created in the bcr2000 – so it could only work if there is a way to add a message into the midi stream to `mute note x' until another `un-mute note x' message appears – even though `note x' midi messages are still coming in from the drum machine. I couldn't find any GM midi messages to do this. In mode `S-4' the bcr2000 generally sends only performance data created in the bcr2000 – so it could only work if there is a way to allow some of the midi transmission to pass from the midi IN on the bcr2000 to the midi out, i.e. the notes I want played – I couldn't get this to work either.
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> I'm fairly new to all of this so might have missed something. Anyway, so does anyone know if there is anything else I should try to get this to work with the bcr2000, or even is there a way to custom program the bcr2000 – I have a programming background so could do that myself?
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