Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Dan

Just checked out  the SC88-Pro manual and it looks like you can edit the level (volume) of individual drum sounds from the front panel (see manual pp40-43) so if those values are output over MIDI, you could monitor them on the PC using something like MIDI-OX.  Then you could set the BCR into "learn mode" (this was discussed a few weeks ago on this site, also well documented in the BCR manual) and assign to knobs or switches.  The MIDI implemention at the back of the SC88 manual also lists sysex codes for adusting these, so you could input them manually using a BCR Editor (see files>applications) - but if you can get by with MIDI learn mdoe, that is probably the simplest option.

You should then be able to merge data from the DR-880 with controller info from the BCR and output to the SC-88.  I haven't checked for the Z4/kontakt, but the principle should be the same.

For the SC88, you could also mess with pan, reverb and chorus depth, and even note pitch, in real-time if you wanted.

Let us know how you get on.

Bill

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "dgreenvalda" <dgreenvalda@...> wrote:
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> That would be great if its possible.
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> The module is the Roland sc-88 pro, and did start to try that, and got to the point where the bcr2000 was mutiny the whole channel. If the was a code to mute individual notes that would be great. Also though, I sometimes use an akai z4 as the sound module. Also, I have been thinking of even purchasing kontakt and using that for the drum sounds. Do you know if the bcr2000 can selectively mute zones in kontakt since that too would basically achieve a similar thing. I guess I just really like the patterns in the dr88p. 
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> Thanks for your reply.
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> Dan.
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> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "twobeelandscape" <bill@> wrote:
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> > Hi, I started to write a reply suggesting that you find a way to control the DR880 kit instrument levels via MIDI (p103 of the DR880 manual).  As far as I know, there is no way to use the BCR as a MIDI message filter.  But what you really need is to control the volume of individual voices in your hardware sound module - so the MIDI note messages still get through, they just don't sound.  What is the hardware expander unit? 
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> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "dgreenvalda" <dgreenvalda@> wrote:
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> > > To explain this question: for example, I have a hardware drum machine (Boss DR-880) which has great drum patterns and sequences built in, but I don't much like the inbuilt sounds, so I use a separate hardware sound module, connected via midi for the actual drum sounds. This gives a fairly unique sound which I'm very happy with. This works very well if I program full drum song performances into the DR-880, but it doesn't really lend itself very well real-time performance, since the DR-880 generally doesn't allow you to edit patterns while in play mode. I can switch drums patterns in real-time – which is great, but I would love to be able to select a drum pattern on the DR-880 and just let it run, then have the ability to mute any choice of drum `notes' in real-time somehow, eg. while the drum pattern is playing I'd like to mute several drum sounds such as the snare(note # 38), and open high-hat(note # 46), and later while still in real-time play mode, un-mute them one after the other in any order, and do the same for any notes within the midi stream.
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> > > Of course there are other drum machines, sequencers, devices, software, and ways to make electronic music to get around this issue - and I do some of those things at times – but I really want to know if this particular setup can do what I have described above with the bcr2000 used as the device in between the DR-880 drum machine and the sound module to filter out midi notes.
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> > > Following experimentation, I tend to think it isn't possible with the bcr2000, since in modes `S-1' to `S-3' the unit merges incoming midi notes with any performance data created in the bcr2000 – so it could only work if there is a way to add a message into the midi stream to `mute note x' until another `un-mute note x' message appears – even though `note x' midi messages are still coming in from the drum machine. I couldn't find any GM midi messages to do this. In mode `S-4' the bcr2000 generally sends only performance data created in the bcr2000 – so it could only work if there is a way to allow some of the midi transmission to pass from the midi IN on the bcr2000 to the midi out, i.e. the notes I want played – I couldn't get this to work either.
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> > > I'm fairly new to all of this so might have missed something. Anyway, so does anyone know if there is anything else I should try to get this to work with the bcr2000, or even is there a way to custom program the bcr2000 – I have a programming background so could do that myself?
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