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Re: BCR controlling Synthesizer(crumar bit01) full program sysex

2012-11-24 by bitbybyte

Hey, 

Well i could use Sounddiver or Midiquest but the problem is, these tools are so old and buggy that its not working for me. It crashes or hangs up, or even fucked up some of the synth programs. So using these tools is not an option. I did look at the output from Midiquest and for Cutoff its sending this: 

01312.577 (+005.679)	C1 00
01312.577		C1 4A
01312.577		F0 25 11 07 4A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
01312.577		00 00 00 0C 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
01312.577		00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
01312.577		00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
01312.577		00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F 0F 00 00 0C 0A F7 
01312.577		C1 4A

01313.232 (+000.655)	C1 4A
01313.232		F0 25 11 07 4A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
01313.232		00 00 00 0C 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
01313.232		00 0C 0F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
01313.232		00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
01313.232		00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0F 0F 00 00 0C 0A F7 
01313.232		C1 4A



The first part is cutoff value 00
the second part is cutoff value 63, you can find the differences pretty easy like this. Question is can i use this to assign to my BC? When i route this Midiquest output to my BC in midi-learn mode my Crumar BIT01 only changes programs when turning the knob on the BC :/ very strange.







--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Royce" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Steyn
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Steyn L. (Lennart)" <l.steyn@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone could give me some new insights on how to
> controlling a synthesizer which only accepts a full program dump sysex.
> 
> You really need a separate program to take the parameter change and pack
> it up and then send the sysex as the BC controller can't do this.
> 
> > Thing is, the crumar bit01 has only 1 MIDI-IN port. The manual is
> pretty abstract about the sysex part. There are several software editors
> out there but all of them are not working for me. I've tried
> Sounddiver,Midiquest,Bitcontrol and Bitedit.
> >
> > Now looking at what Midiquest is trying to send out it looks like a
> complete program. I'm only wondering if this can be controlled with the
> BCR. If i got a correct sysex string for lets say Cutoff, can the BCR
> pass on the variables to the synthesizer when turning the knobs? Does
> the BCR even accept so much data to be programmed ?
> 
> If moving the knob in Midi quest is changing the parameter on the Crumar
> then they must be either sending a full dump each time or they know
> about some other Crumar sysex messages. Use Midi Ox  and MidiYoke (PC)
> to look at what they are sending.
> 
> Either way,  you can assign a controller (CC) number to each of the
> controls in MidiQuest.
> You can program the BC to output this CC message .
> So your set up would be BC ->  MidiQuest-> Crumar
> 
> Assigning CC message is relative simple on the BC.
> In fact there is an All CC patch on the Behringer website.
> Download this into the BC.
> Now, it doesn't matter what the CC message is.
> Simply get MidiQuest to 'learn' the CC messages from the BC controls. 
> Not the other way around.
> 
> Hope this helps
> Royce
>

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