Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Hm. I noticed something odd. Even though the resolutions on both B-Controls show up as 96 in that screenshot I posted, the BCF turns "faster" (with less resolution) than the BCR knobs. I have to turn a knob on my BCR a good bit farther (which I don't mind) to reach the same point that the BCF reaches with less of a turn.

Not sure what might be affecting that.

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "bconfused2000" <jsrobinson@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks for the replies. I think I have successfully downloaded my presets into BCManager. I've looked over the resolution setting, and both are set to 96 from what I can see. The "defaults" and "LEDs" settings aren't the same betwee the two, would that be a concern?
> 
> I took a screenshot in case that might make it easier to diagnose. I tried changing my global ID to 1 and 2, as I noticed they were set to 1 and 8.
> 
> Just wanted to see if anyone notices anything I should try changing in this screenshot (or otherwise.) The seller has offered to refund me for the unit, but I just wanted to give the software end of troubleshooting some due diligence to save us both some hassle if possible. 
> 
> I was hopeful for that resolution setting, but it does seem that column is identical between the two B-Controls. Anything else look off?
> 
> Here's a screenshot link: http://i.imgur.com/s5XWOrQ.png
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Royce" <rpcfender@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Joey
> > I'm afraid that I mainly use my editor which is a bit tech and Mark's is much better for most people, but here goes
> > 
> > Start BC Manager
> > Click the left button "Show List of B-controls"
> > If your control isn't there then Menu "B-Control/New BCF2000"
> > This row should be highlighted so click menu 'Midi options" and select the Midi In and Out for your BCF and the program should find it.
> > 
> > Click the P button and the preset list comes up
> > On this new window press Menu "Midi / Receive" to download the preset list.
> > Select a preset 0 and press the circle within a circle button "Encoders'.
> > This will show you the details of the encoders
> > 
> > The encoders have a physical resolution of 96.
> > This means that there are 96 different spots when you turn the 
> > encoder 360 degrees.
> > 
> > The software parameter 'Resolutions' has a default 96 which means that each spot puts out a the next incremented value 1,2,3...
> > 
> > So if you had a range of 0 to 127 you would have to turn the encoder more than one whole turn to get to 127.
> > 
> > If you made the resolution  96 x 2 =192 then at each spot you would put out the old value + 2 eg ... 10,12,14...
> > 
> > If you made the resolution  96 / 2 =48 then at each spot you would put out the value twice before incrementing eg ... 10,10,11,11,12,12,...
> > 
> > Hope this helps
> > Royce
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Joey Robinson <jsrobinson@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'd like to learn how to determine what my BCR resolution is set to, at
> > > that, so I can do a comparison.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Joey Robinson <jsrobinson@>wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hey Royce and all,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the tip. I've found BCManager but I must admit I'm really in
> > > > the dark on how to use this.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a preset guide for idiots around? I've read the BCEdit as well as
> > > > the BCManager manual and I'm no less confused yet.
> > > >
> > > > Could anyone outline how to do a very standard edit of one single knob so
> > > > I can get started? I've gotten as far as having BCManager detect my
> > > > hardware, but as far as actually editing one of the presets or creating my
> > > > own, I'm totally not sure what to do. Please be as detailed as possible,
> > > > I'm fairly technically savvy but this has me in the dark.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 2:34 AM, Royce <rpcfender@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> **
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Before you do anything with the physical encoder try changing the
> > > >> resolution by software.
> > > >> The encoders can have 4 different resolutions depending on what speed you
> > > >> are turning them and you can program this value.
> > > >>
> > > >> Check out my BC guide in the files area - SecretBC.pdf
> > > >>
> > > >> http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/PHskUZIMDc3g0_s6h1lddgdYgz7k32zhQ1JB32BGbgIlKt6SqffbH0_1EDZqWnO4iFMk9Zc02RRxmE0kSO-EAg/Documentation/SecretBC.pdf
> > > >>
> > > >> Get Mark's PC editor from his web site
> > > >> http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/
> > > >> <http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/>
> > > >>
> > > >> Program an encoder with different .resolution values to see if that makes
> > > >> a difference.
> > > >>
> > > >> All the best
> > > >> Royce
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Joey Robinson <jsrobinson@> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Hi all,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I bought a new BCF 2000 off eBay, (in new condition), and am in need of
> > > >> > some serious help.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The rotary knobs themselves have a fair bit of jumpiness or lag
> > > >> compared to
> > > >> > the BCR I just hooked up. The BCR feels fantastic, with a nice
> > > >> resolution
> > > >> > to the knobs. The BCF feels jumpy. I've tried everything I can think of
> > > >> and
> > > >> > have researched on google. I've ran the unit in every emulation mode,
> > > >> I've
> > > >> > tried straight midi mapping a knob to pan or a send, and also have tried
> > > >> > using Learn. The Learn button on the BCF seems to not work for mapping
> > > >> most
> > > >> > of the knobs.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am using Win7 x64 and have the latest x64 drivers from the Behringer
> > > >> site
> > > >> > installed. I've tried with every manner of "Mackie" or "BCF" control
> > > >> > surface mode in Ableton, as well as tried disabling/enabling the
> > > >> different
> > > >> > MIDI track options below. I've tried switching USB cables between the
> > > >> BCF
> > > >> > and BCR, nothing seems to make a difference. The knobs in general are
> > > >> much
> > > >> > looser on the BCF2000 than the BCR. They have a much worse resolution
> > > >> and
> > > >> > laggy feel than the BCR. I have no idea what else to try. Oh, and yes
> > > >> I'm
> > > >> > using the latest 1.10 firmware.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am also having an issue where the "left preset" browse button only
> > > >> works
> > > >> > half the time if in B-Control mode. The button is obviously dying, fresh
> > > >> > out of box. Are these buttons fixable?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks immensely for any help.
> > > >> >
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