Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

I'm at the point of giving-up.. it's not like I just bought this today and I'm being hasty... I bought this 3 months ago... spent a couple of days with it back then, and gave-up and has been collecting dust since 3 days ago when I thought I'd get my shit together and figure it out. 

And during these past 3 days I've read too many threads on setting this up from people just as confused as me... and many 'fixes'.... but I'm not technical in that way, I want something that needs 1 hour 'optimizing' and is then god to go. It's 2013 for Christ's sake... I don't think that's too much too ask from our hardware (although this is 10 years old or more).


Anyhow... I'll probably sell this and put in a pre-order for Push. or maybe the APC  - does it work better straight outta the box?

(sorry for the rant - just frustrated because I can tell the build quality of this box is actually fantastic. just I'm too dumb to figure it out.. I wanna spend time playing my synths.. not wasting precious hours of my middle-aged life on this crap. heh-he, but gah!!)

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "mmruijgrok" <senang@...> wrote:
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> Unfortunately I cannot help you but I'm curious about the solution as I am about to step over to Live and as you I was assuming this was going to be a breeze.
> 
> Maybe though you can use a tool like MIDI Tools to read out the messages and check how they are mapped out?
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> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "patgoodfellow" <GOODFELLOWPAT@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm trying to set-up the BCR to work with Ableton. It's kind of bewildering. It's not responding in a well behaved way... and it's giving me a headache.
> > 
> > I have selected the BCR template in Preferences > Mdid/Sync. (Input & Output + Remote are all activated).
> > I know that with this preset Abletons Device Parameters are controlled by the top 8 push encoders,and the top key buttons on the BCR select the 1-8 function banks. The BCR is sending data because ableton does respond on some random parameters (although in no logical sense that I've figured out yet) but not responding according to the way Mappings are set-up with the Ablton template (I checked the 'Control Surface Reference' help file in Ableton)
> > 
> > For example, I go to the ableton Device 'Analog', select Bank 1 on the BCR and move the top encoders, but Analog doesn't respond... same if I select Bank 2 which should move the 'Analog's' filters... but it doesn't respond. (I do have the Analog device selected with the little blue hand) 
> > 
> > 
> > Question: Do I need to Dump the Ableton script to the BCR for it to work correctly? I've done this already and the lights on the BCR spin around like you would expect, but then at the last moment I get an Er22 error message.. So I presume the dump failed?? I've tried 2 usb cables and 2 different usb ports on my computer - same thing.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Question 2: I do have BC Manager, but shouldn't the BCR be able to work 'straight outta the box' with Abelton's included script/template? 
> > 
> > Thanks for any words of wisdom you can throw my way. I thought this would be a lot simpler...
> > 
> > Pat
> >
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