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Re: [bc2000]

2018-04-18 by man.of.mystery@...

I haven't used Ableton, so I don't know what the limitations are, but I'd suggest trying Cantabile, from TopTen Software:

https://www.cantabilesoftware.com/download/

The cheapest paid version has a feature called Bindings, which allows you to control any parameter of a VST from a MIDI controller - it's similar to the "MIDI Learn" that some VSTs have, but it extends it to any parameter that can be controlled via the DAW. Usually, that's all of them.

You get to try it for a month, and you can use it without the paid for features for free indefinitely. It's quite reasonably priced.

I do understand that switching DAWs is probably not something you'd do lightly. I'm just suggesting an option I know that works.

The only time I've had problems is when a VST already responds to a particular CC sent by the MIDI controller - things get messy if you try to use it to do something else. The way around that is to change it on the BCR2000 / BCF2000, to send a CC that does nothing, then set a "Binding" to make it control the parameter you want.

You can also use a MIDI mapping to send everything to a different MIDI channel, so the VST doesn't see any CCs directly, then set up the bindings.

It's a bit tedious to set up 32 knobs, but you get to save it for next time. The difficult thing is going back and changing assignments later - it can be done, it just takes a bit of time to learn how. Maybe start with a clear plan of what knob or slider you want to control which parameter first, and make some notes.

The author of Cantabile is very helpful, and normally responds to emails directly. It's billed as a DAW for performing live with, but I don't see any reason why it can't be used to record with, like any other DAW.

Andy

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