Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

----- Original Message -----

From: alancurrall

To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:36 AM

Subject: [bc2000] Re: Matrix 6 BCR editor beta.

Hiya Maker,

How did you get on with this? I've only just joined the group and although it seems like a
pipe dream I'd love to get a hands on way of editing my Yamaha TX7 (DX7 in a box)
without having to use a computer.

Cheers,
Alan

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "themaker4" .> wrote:
>
> Looking for negative value solution Midiquest can do this.....
>
> I tried sending a negative value to a BCR button from a MIDIQUEST demo:
>
> # Generated by BC-Convert. Input was DeviceID 0, ModelID 21
>
> $rev R1
> $preset
> .name 'init '
> .snapshot off
> .request off
> .egroups 4
> .fkeys on
> .lock off
> .init
> $button 1
> .showvalue off
> .default 0
> .mode down
> .minmax 0 127
> .tx $F0 $10 $06 $05 $F7 $F0 $10 $06 $06 $01 $6C $F7
> $end
>
> The button generates a string in wich $F0 $10 $06 $06 $01 $6C $F7 obviously is the
> parameter byte ($6C the value)
>
> Before that it's : $F0 $10 $06 $05 Does this make any sense to anyone? Could this
mean
> a negative value is sent?
>
> The Maker
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "themaker4" wrote:
> >
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" wrote:
> >
> >
> > First results on this!!! Most encoders seem to work, I tested it with 16 encoders
working
> > fine.
> >
> > Next step is the Negative values And the buttons.
> >
> > I've got 2 more questions:
> >
> > While editting the hardcore BCR code,
> >
> > 1 How do I use the toggle button to send out a 1 value sysex byte at a time? Each time
> the
> > button is pressed I want the BCR to toggle between 2 values for example
> >
> > .tx $F0 $10 $06 $06 20 0 $F7
> >
> > .tx $F0 $10 $06 $06 20 1 $F7
> >
> > (sorry for mixing hex with normal numbers)
> >
> > 2 @ Tony Cappelini (I post the question here So everyone can read...
> >
> > How did you in the end implement the negative parameter transmit thing On the
Peavey
> > PC1600 (for instance parameters like LFO amount that use ranges (-63/+63))?
> >
> > Is it correct that the matrix 1000 has this implemented support for this in a smarter
> way?
> >
> > Another thing I noticed, was that the BCR sometimes outputs lots of (random) notes
and
> > sysex values. Has anyone encountered this or is my device malfunctioning?
> >
> > The Maker
> >
> > >
> > > Welcome
> > >
> > > > Wanted to let you know I'm currently working out a BCR preset for the
> > > > Oberheim matrix 6(R) using bc convert on MAC OSX. Most parameters
> > > > should also work for the matrix 1000.
> > > >
> > > > 2 things I wanna find out
> > > >
> > > > 1. Has anyone else heard of people who've been working on similar
> > > > projects? It's maybe a days work & want to avoid double work...
> > >
>; > > I have done quite a bit of work on presets for hardware synths , but not
> > > any Oberheim.
> > >
> > > > 2 The BCR kan only learn sysex to the knobs not to the encoders (1
> > > > String at a time....) so i've heard (is this correct? I think so,
> > > > because only with the knobs I get 'good' message on the BCR after
> > > > sysex dump.....
> > >
> > > The thing you need to program into the BCR can't be programmed using the
> > > front panel of the BCR.
> > > BC convert should do the trick. (I'm sorry I don't have a version of my
> > > editor for the Mac)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I was thinking of learning the sysex data to the knobs from sounddiver
> > > > (or similar editor), and then:
> > > >
> > > > Replace the suffix with the suffix in the bc convert
> > > > textfile using the text editor's "find and replace" function. In other
> > > > words, deleting everything but the sysex strings.
> > > >
> > > > This way you can very "hands on" learn (any) sysex to the BCR.
> > > >
> > > I don't think this will work.
> > > The script for the buttons and the encoders are similar but not the
> > > same.
> > > Plus there is extra stuff that one has that the other doesn't.
> > > The BCR is capable of heaps of things that Behringer forgot to tell us.
> > >
> > > > Should beautyfully work for lots of 80's synths like bit01, ESQ80, or
> > > > even Yamaha Fm series, that are not supplied with standard CC
> > > > implemetation!
> > >
> > > There is a member that was trying to write a preset for his new Korg
> > > DW8000.
> > > I have a DW 6000 and wrote a preset to get him started.
> > > Check it out in the files section and it might help you get started in
> > > learning how to handle syex messages on the encoders.
> > >
> > > I am writing a number of presets for the FantomX (the first ones are
> > > also in the files section)
> > > It has so many parameters that it takes quite a few presets to access
> > >; all of them.
> > >
> > > I only had partial success with a preset for the Emu Morpheus as Emu use
> > > negative numbers and the BCR can't really cope with these (as far as I
> > > know) e.g. pan starts at -7 for hard left, -7 -6 -5 -4-3-2-1 0 for
> > > centre and then up to 7 for hard right
> > >
> > > Anyone have any thoughts on how to do this?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
>; > > > Anyone inspired?
> > >
> > > Always. When you get it going save it in the files section to inspire
> > > others and save them some programming time.
> > > If you get stuck post a message tell us what you are trying to do
> > > (perhaps write the MIDI message you are trying to send) and we'll all
> > > see if we can help.
> > >
> > > All the best
> > > Royce
> >
>