Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Great idea in principle. My problem is I a not a paypal member and I 
am not sure whether to trust them. Would there be an alternative 
payment method (visa or master card)?

I will also admit that I hope for a more extensive manual in the 
future, I am just too awkward it seems...

fab


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark
> 
> > But talking about the fact that BC Manager is freeware:
> > Maybe some 9 months ago, when I announced that I had started 
writing
> > BC Manager, someone in this group suggested that he'd even be
> > interested if I made it shareware. I have never really considered
> > this, for several reasons, all amounting to the feeling that it 
would
> > be more trouble than benefit: setting up a method for payment,
> > building in a registration method, trying to prevent piracy. 
Perhaps
> > most importantly: I would simply not feel comfortable asking money
> > from people I consider, in some abstract way, "my friends".
> 
> I've been thinking about this since I opened my mouth and mentioned 
that
> themaker4 shouldn't charge for his efforts (Msg #712)
> I think perhaps I was wrong.
> 
> The thing about 'free' software for me is that, I was going to 
produce
> it anyway for my own use, so it isn't a big deal if someone else 
uses
> it.
> The time it took to code has been paid for by solving a problem I 
had.
> 
> There are other programs I have written for free.
> These are ones that, although they are useful for someone, require 
very
> little time to produce.
> 
> Your situation is somewhat different.
> You could have written all the presets you ever wanted with the 
tools
> that were available already.
> This is not true of many others that find it new or a bit difficult 
and
> benefit from the editor.
> The code you produced is sizable and clearly has it has taken a long
> time and skill to produce
> 
> Professional musicians are traditionally poor (that's why I learned 
to
> code and to design electronic gear that I couldn't afford to buy) 
which
> is why I like 'if you can afford to pay something then great, if not
> then just have fun' and seems the way to go.
> 
> Hopefully enough people who can afford it will respond and there 
will be
> enough money to justify any new features and the support for 
everyone.
> 
> The open source community is great, but if you need a bug fix or a 
new
> feature right now, it is a bit rich to demand that the programmer
> respond straight away when he/she needs to make some money 
elsewhere to
> survive.
> 
> Strangely the open source guys do respond very quickly, but that is
> usually because there is at least a few of them out there.
> For a single coder the burden is substantial.
> 
> > Relationships between me and the other members in the group would 
get
> > subtly "different". And what about the people who have (in 
whatever
> > way) contributed to the program? Royce for instance, or that 
German
> > guy who wrote the first report on the BCF/BCR's MIDI 
implementation:
> 
> I'm happy for you to charge/get donations to help support this 
product.
> I think you have already been very generous with your excellent BC 
sysex
> document.
> I don't think this community would feel any different.
> 
> > shouldn't they get a share of the profits too?
> 
> No. It's public domain info now (to which you have contributed
> substantially anyway).
> 
> > And people might get
> > more reluctant to contribute to the program in the future 
(pointing
> > out bugs or making suggestions for new features etc.),
> 
> Don't worry, people never get sick of telling you where you went 
wrong
> and everyone always wants extra features.
> 
> > for in a sense
> > they would then become some kind of unpaid employees. Maybe I'm
> > exaggerating a bit, but I would find this all a bit unpleasant - 
so
> > that's why BC Manager is free.
> 
> I don't think you will make a living from the editor, but it might 
help
> you to continue the development/support .
> It might enable/encourage  you to produce more editors/programs for 
the
> BCs and perhaps other gear .
> 
> It's clear the Behringer (and other gear manufactures) wont go any
> farther.
> They have an economic imperative that we don't and although it is 
value
> adding for their product I see it as becoming 'our' product.
> Clearly the Uno FCB1010 is no longer a Behringer product.
> 
> Thanks for your efforts (and don't for get the 10% commission we 
spoke
> about [:)] )
> 
> Anyone know how to setup a PayPal Donation ware button? It might be 
a
> good new thread to start.
> 
> All the best
> 
> Royce
>