Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Also, the "thank you Mark!" was not so much about the editor being 
free, but more about an editor that permits copy and paste and 
changing many parameters at the same time! finally...now i just need 
to understand how it all works!

fab



--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "fas1piano" <fas1piano@...> wrote:
>
> Great idea in principle. My problem is I a not a paypal member and 
I 
> am not sure whether to trust them. Would there be an alternative 
> payment method (visa or master card)?
> 
> I will also admit that I hope for a more extensive manual in the 
> future, I am just too awkward it seems...
> 
> fab
> 
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mark
> > 
> > > But talking about the fact that BC Manager is freeware:
> > > Maybe some 9 months ago, when I announced that I had started 
> writing
> > > BC Manager, someone in this group suggested that he'd even be
> > > interested if I made it shareware. I have never really 
considered
> > > this, for several reasons, all amounting to the feeling that it 
> would
> > > be more trouble than benefit: setting up a method for payment,
> > > building in a registration method, trying to prevent piracy. 
> Perhaps
> > > most importantly: I would simply not feel comfortable asking 
money
> > > from people I consider, in some abstract way, "my friends".
> > 
> > I've been thinking about this since I opened my mouth and 
mentioned 
> that
> > themaker4 shouldn't charge for his efforts (Msg #712)
> > I think perhaps I was wrong.
> > 
> > The thing about 'free' software for me is that, I was going to 
> produce
> > it anyway for my own use, so it isn't a big deal if someone else 
> uses
> > it.
> > The time it took to code has been paid for by solving a problem I 
> had.
> > 
> > There are other programs I have written for free.
> > These are ones that, although they are useful for someone, 
require 
> very
> > little time to produce.
> > 
> > Your situation is somewhat different.
> > You could have written all the presets you ever wanted with the 
> tools
> > that were available already.
> > This is not true of many others that find it new or a bit 
difficult 
> and
> > benefit from the editor.
> > The code you produced is sizable and clearly has it has taken a 
long
> > time and skill to produce
> > 
> > Professional musicians are traditionally poor (that's why I 
learned 
> to
> > code and to design electronic gear that I couldn't afford to buy) 
> which
> > is why I like 'if you can afford to pay something then great, if 
not
> > then just have fun' and seems the way to go.
> > 
> > Hopefully enough people who can afford it will respond and there 
> will be
> > enough money to justify any new features and the support for 
> everyone.
> > 
> > The open source community is great, but if you need a bug fix or 
a 
> new
> > feature right now, it is a bit rich to demand that the programmer
> > respond straight away when he/she needs to make some money 
> elsewhere to
> > survive.
> > 
> > Strangely the open source guys do respond very quickly, but that 
is
> > usually because there is at least a few of them out there.
> > For a single coder the burden is substantial.
> > 
> > > Relationships between me and the other members in the group 
would 
> get
> > > subtly "different". And what about the people who have (in 
> whatever
> > > way) contributed to the program? Royce for instance, or that 
> German
> > > guy who wrote the first report on the BCF/BCR's MIDI 
> implementation:
> > 
> > I'm happy for you to charge/get donations to help support this 
> product.
> > I think you have already been very generous with your excellent 
BC 
> sysex
> > document.
> > I don't think this community would feel any different.
> > 
> > > shouldn't they get a share of the profits too?
> > 
> > No. It's public domain info now (to which you have contributed
> > substantially anyway).
> > 
> > > And people might get
> > > more reluctant to contribute to the program in the future 
> (pointing
> > > out bugs or making suggestions for new features etc.),
> > 
> > Don't worry, people never get sick of telling you where you went 
> wrong
> > and everyone always wants extra features.
> > 
> > > for in a sense
> > > they would then become some kind of unpaid employees. Maybe I'm
> > > exaggerating a bit, but I would find this all a bit unpleasant -
 
> so
> > > that's why BC Manager is free.
> > 
> > I don't think you will make a living from the editor, but it 
might 
> help
> > you to continue the development/support .
> > It might enable/encourage  you to produce more editors/programs 
for 
> the
> > BCs and perhaps other gear .
> > 
> > It's clear the Behringer (and other gear manufactures) wont go any
> > farther.
> > They have an economic imperative that we don't and although it is 
> value
> > adding for their product I see it as becoming 'our' product.
> > Clearly the Uno FCB1010 is no longer a Behringer product.
> > 
> > Thanks for your efforts (and don't for get the 10% commission we 
> spoke
> > about [:)] )
> > 
> > Anyone know how to setup a PayPal Donation ware button? It might 
be 
> a
> > good new thread to start.
> > 
> > All the best
> > 
> > Royce
> >
>