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Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-05-31 by k5kip_1999

Update,

I have been able to split them up and send 2 of them so far.
I have not been able to send the more than one script at a time,
however.
I will post both scripts for vox1 and vox 2.

Kip

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:
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> I have pretty large file to send and I keep getting access violation
> errors. Example Access violation at address 004155D5 in module
> BCReditor.exe. Read of address 31323176.
> Winxp.
> I will post my file in the vfx section.
>

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-05-31 by k5kip_1999

Update 2,
Got them all there, but had to send them individually,
I really want to send them all at once.
I will continue to try to do this.
All 6 are posted in the file section.
Tweaking ... finding that 48 48 48 48 resolution value helps prevent
midi lock ups on the vfx.
More to follow.
Almost there, tho. 
Let me tell you THANK YOU!
You have helped me bring back to life an old workhorse!
Now, I just need to get a nice package together, then ship it here.

Kip

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:
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>
> Update,
> 
> I have been able to split them up and send 2 of them so far.
> I have not been able to send the more than one script at a time,
> however.
> I will post both scripts for vox1 and vox 2.
> 
> Kip
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@> wrote:
> >
> > I have pretty large file to send and I keep getting access violation
> > errors. Example Access violation at address 004155D5 in module
> > BCReditor.exe. Read of address 31323176.
> > Winxp.
> > I will post my file in the vfx section.
> >
>

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-06-01 by rpcfender

Hi Kip

> Got them all there, but had to send them individually,
> I really want to send them all at once.

You are talking about sending the presets here, right?
Just zip all three up and post them.

> I will continue to try to do this.
> All 6 are posted in the file section.
> Tweaking ... finding that 48 48 48 48 resolution value helps prevent
> midi lock ups on the vfx.
You could also try to increase the .txinterval in the global section

> More to follow.
> Almost there, tho. 
> Let me tell you THANK YOU!
> You have helped me bring back to life an old workhorse!

Pleasure, glad it's all working, but I think you did all the hard work.
Another preset for the growing list. Well done

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-06-01 by k5kip_1999

Royce, 
No, I am talking about merging all 6 .bc2 files one file, then saving
as a .syx file to send to the bcr. Less hassle and it won't require
your editor to load them.

I loaded them all into the file section, vfx_vox_1 thru 6.bcs
How can I combine them into one package to send to bcr?
I tried to put them together but kept getting bcredit protection errors.

Thanks, Kip

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi Kip
> 
> > Got them all there, but had to send them individually,
> > I really want to send them all at once.
> 
> You are talking about sending the presets here, right?
> Just zip all three up and post them.
> 
> > I will continue to try to do this.
> > All 6 are posted in the file section.
> > Tweaking ... finding that 48 48 48 48 resolution value helps prevent
> > midi lock ups on the vfx.
> You could also try to increase the .txinterval in the global section
> 
> > More to follow.
> > Almost there, tho. 
> > Let me tell you THANK YOU!
> > You have helped me bring back to life an old workhorse!
> 
> Pleasure, glad it's all working, but I think you did all the hard work.
> Another preset for the growing list. Well done
>

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-06-02 by rpcfender

Hi Kip

>merging all 6 .bc2 files one file, then saving
> as a .syx file to send to the bcr. Less hassle and it won't require
> your editor to load them.

As you do in your script, you need to store the preset before sending
the next one otherwise the edit buffer is overwritten.
I prefer to do this by hand so I can choose where they will go and not
overwrite any other other presets in my setup, so I have never checked
to make sure you can dump very large multiple preset files. 
Sorry about that, there is a bug in the code. I shall sort it out with
the next version of the editor.

"BCR Editor" is the Birdie editor. 
The Java editor is called "BCEdit"
Wisely Mark's editor is called "BC Manger"
Foolishly I have called my editor "BCREditor" I will change that in
the next version as well.

From a previous post, my understanding is that Mark's editor
overwrites all 32 presets each time he sends a preset to the BCR .
This could solve your problems. 

Or you could load the 6 files into my editor and save each of them as
a sysex file and join the sysex files together and send them with MidiOx

By the way I noticed you didn't end the files with $end. Probably
doesn't have too much effect sending $rev R1 without having the $end
before it, but the 6th file probably should have one to finish the dump.


Royce

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-06-02 by k5kip_1999


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" wrote:
>
> Hi Kip
>
> >merging all 6 .bc2 files one file, then saving
> > as a .syx file to send to the bcr. Less hassle and it won't require
> > your editor to load them.
>
> As you do in your script, you need to store the preset before sending
> the next one otherwise the edit buffer is overwritten.
> I prefer to do this by hand so I can choose where they will go and not
> overwrite any other other presets in my setup, so I have never checked
> to make sure you can dump very large multiple preset files.

I was assuming that the user would not know... and want them all contiguous.
I would warn them about overwrites and then... just let it be.
BTW... I tried your adjustment on the .txinterval @100 and that seems to help unless, I am tweaking multiple knobs at the same time, then I still get a lock up.


> Sorry about that, there is a bug in the code. I shall sort it out with
> the next version of the editor.
>
> "BCR Editor" is the Birdie editor.
> The Java editor is called "BCEdit"
> Wisely Mark's editor is called "BC Manger"
> Foolishly I have called my editor "BCREditor" I will change that in
> the next version as well.
>
> From a previous post, my understanding is that Mark's editor
> overwrites all 32 presets each time he sends a preset to the BCR .
> This could solve your problems.
>
> Or you could load the 6 files into my editor and save each of them as
> a sysex file and join the sysex files together and send them with MidiOx
.
Ok ... how do I join them?
Just paste them together in your editor and save as a sysex, then dump using midiox.
Ok, will try that..

>
> By the way I noticed you didn't end the files with $end. Probably
>; doesn't have too much effect sending $rev R1 without having the $end
> before it, but the 6th file probably should have one to finish the dump.

I did use an $end statement at the end of the mega preset.
I deleted the preset I had tried to send, before you made it back.
It was vfx 1-6 and two mackie presets.

I will try loading them all in to your editor, then saving as a sysex and trying a dump.
I will post my findings.


>
>
> Royce
>

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-06-02 by k5kip_1999

Royce,

I can combine 2 presets, 1+2 as a sysex, then dump them back to bcr
using midiox.
When I try to add the third preset to your editor, I get and error
message when I try to save as .syx.

Kip


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
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> Hi Kip
> 
> >merging all 6 .bc2 files one file, then saving
> > as a .syx file to send to the bcr. Less hassle and it won't require
> > your editor to load them.
> 
> As you do in your script, you need to store the preset before sending
> the next one otherwise the edit buffer is overwritten.
> I prefer to do this by hand so I can choose where they will go and not
> overwrite any other other presets in my setup, so I have never checked
> to make sure you can dump very large multiple preset files. 
> Sorry about that, there is a bug in the code. I shall sort it out with
> the next version of the editor.
> 
> "BCR Editor" is the Birdie editor. 
> The Java editor is called "BCEdit"
> Wisely Mark's editor is called "BC Manger"
> Foolishly I have called my editor "BCREditor" I will change that in
> the next version as well.
> 
> From a previous post, my understanding is that Mark's editor
> overwrites all 32 presets each time he sends a preset to the BCR .
> This could solve your problems. 
> 
> Or you could load the 6 files into my editor and save each of them as
> a sysex file and join the sysex files together and send them with MidiOx
> 
> By the way I noticed you didn't end the files with $end. Probably
> doesn't have too much effect sending $rev R1 without having the $end
> before it, but the 6th file probably should have one to finish the dump.
> 
> 
> Royce
>

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-06-02 by rpcfender

Hi Kip

> > Or you could load the 6 files into my editor and save each of them
as
> > a sysex file and join the sysex files together and send them with
> MidiOx
> .
> Ok ... how do I join them?
> Just paste them together in your editor and save as a sysex, then dump
> using midiox.
> Ok, will try that..
>

Start/run cmd
copy /B vfx1.syx+vfx2.syx+vfx3.syx+vfx4.syx+vfx5.syx+vfx6.syx vfxAll.syx
or
copy /B vfx?.syx vfxall.syx

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-06-02 by k5kip_1999

Ah, nice ... dos commands. I never actually did "that" with any copy
command. I thought I was going to have to cut and paste.  
Which is what I was trying to do with codeblocks on the .bc2 files.

Ok, that will put them all in order, or do I need to have each one end
with $end?

I will experiment today, and then try to upload to vfx when I get home.
BTW the .txinterval setting of 100 seems to work well. I can then
change the .resolution to higher values. I still hangs when I try to
do multinotes and multi knob twisting, however, it is much better, I
can actually twist alot real time, even envelops without seize, as
long as I am only messing with one knob and one note.

Thanks again, Kip



--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
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>
> Hi Kip
> 
> > > Or you could load the 6 files into my editor and save each of them
> as
> > > a sysex file and join the sysex files together and send them with
> > MidiOx
> > .
> > Ok ... how do I join them?
> > Just paste them together in your editor and save as a sysex, then dump
> > using midiox.
> > Ok, will try that..
> >
> 
> Start/run cmd
> copy /B vfx1.syx+vfx2.syx+vfx3.syx+vfx4.syx+vfx5.syx+vfx6.syx vfxAll.syx
> or
> copy /B vfx?.syx vfxall.syx
>

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-06-02 by k5kip_1999

Problems still, sending the vfx_all.syx file results in error 22 on bcr.
I will post it.


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "k5kip_1999" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:
>
> Ah, nice ... dos commands. I never actually did "that" with any copy
> command. I thought I was going to have to cut and paste.  
> Which is what I was trying to do with codeblocks on the .bc2 files.
> 
> Ok, that will put them all in order, or do I need to have each one end
> with $end?
> 
> I will experiment today, and then try to upload to vfx when I get home.
> BTW the .txinterval setting of 100 seems to work well. I can then
> change the .resolution to higher values. I still hangs when I try to
> do multinotes and multi knob twisting, however, it is much better, I
> can actually twist alot real time, even envelops without seize, as
> long as I am only messing with one knob and one note.
> 
> Thanks again, Kip
> 
> 
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Kip
> > 
> > > > Or you could load the 6 files into my editor and save each of them
> > as
> > > > a sysex file and join the sysex files together and send them with
> > > MidiOx
> > > .
> > > Ok ... how do I join them?
> > > Just paste them together in your editor and save as a sysex,
then dump
> > > using midiox.
> > > Ok, will try that..
> > >
> > 
> > Start/run cmd
> > copy /B vfx1.syx+vfx2.syx+vfx3.syx+vfx4.syx+vfx5.syx+vfx6.syx
vfxAll.syx
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> > or
> > copy /B vfx?.syx vfxall.syx
> >
>

Re: Royce - some probs with BCReditor...

2008-06-08 by Mark van den Berg

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "rpcfender" <rpcfender@...> wrote:
> From a previous post, my understanding is that Mark's editor
> overwrites all 32 presets each time he sends a preset to the BCR .

Not quite: BC Manager does SAVE all 32 presets to any syx/txt file it 
creates (even if some of these presets are "empty"). However, when you 
SEND one or more individual presets to the BCF/BCR, only THOSE presets 
are sent (plus the "temporary" preset, but that's a different matter). 
Only when you execute "Send all data" does BC Manager send all 32 
(possibly "empty") presets to the BCF/BCR.

Mark.

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