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BCN44 and .tx record

BCN44 and .tx record

2008-09-15 by prema_arnava

Hi all,

I have a BC Nano Controller, and I would to set up custom output like
I set it on my BCR2000 in BC Manager. I guess I have to do it manualy
(Txt -> Sysex -> BCN) because IFAIK there is no editor for BCN.

But the main question is, do BC Nano is capable of sending custom
output by .tx record?

thanks,
Yoyo

Re: BCN44 and .tx record

2008-09-16 by Mark van den Berg

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "prema_arnava" <yoyo@...> wrote:
> I have a BC Nano Controller, and I would to set up custom output like
> I set it on my BCR2000 in BC Manager. I guess I have to do it manualy
> (Txt -> Sysex -> BCN) because IFAIK there is no editor for BCN.
> 
> But the main question is, do BC Nano is capable of sending custom
> output by .tx record?

Short question, long answer...

I must admit the very existence of the BCN44 had slipped my mind, but
I've now looked at its manual from behringer.com: my impression is
that it basically works along similar lines as the BCF/BCR2000, but I
can't be completely sure.

If I understand the manual correctly, the BCN is capable of outputting
any "learned" MIDI data (including SysEx messages).

So as a first step, you could try to use the LEARN function to program
the BCN with some MIDI messages (as explained in the manual, section
4.1), then perform a preset dump to the computer and capture it (via
BC Manager, MIDI-OX or whatever), save this dump as a syx file and see
how the BCN has stored the learned MIDI messages. Even without
decrypting the whole SysEx format used by the BCN, you should be able
to see text strings like ".tx" in this syx file via any hexadecimal
editor.

My guess is that the BCN indeed uses ".tx" - I can't see how it could
be done otherwise.

Once you've established that the BCN indeed uses a protocol similar to
the BCF/BCR2000, you would then have to figure out the general MIDI
message format used in the BCN's preset dumps.

My guess is that the BCN uses SysEx protocols very similar (perhaps
even largely identical) to the ones used by the BCF/BCR - see the
document "BC MIDI Implementation.pdf" in the Yahoo group's file section.
I wouldn't recommend you to make a FULL analysis of the whole
protocol: for the BCF/BCR it took me literally months last year, and
I'm not even talking about writing an editor (BC Manager) based on
that: I'm still having nightmares about it all...

Anyway, once you know the general BCN preset dump format (and can
convert it to and from txt format), you can test basically anything,
so that would go a long way towards your needs.

Mark.

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