Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

I recently got a BCR2000, and am quite impressed with the Mackie control preset for Ableton Live by genmce.

I love being able to switch banks and channels and have all the controls follow along. There is one thing I'm missing though, and I'm wondering if it's possible to achieve. I'll illustrate with an example.

Say I have an EQ device on each track as the first device. I can click on it with the mouse, it'll get the "hand" and then I can use the d.pots. Brilliant. However, even better would be to have it always follow along when switching channels. So that the same knobs on the BCR would always control the EQ for whichever track I happen to have selected.

It sort of half-works if I first select the device in Live with the mouse, then move to a different track with a channel select button and that new channel has a clip in the current slot. The "hand" will then move to the EQ device of the new channel. If there is no clip in the slot however, the hand doesn't move. The hand also doesn't move if using the cursor knob instead of the channel select buttons.

Is there a way to set the hand via MIDI? So that e.g. every time I select a new channel, a message will go to Live saying "put the hand on the first device in the device chain for the active channel"?

Thanks

That is an interesting thought, I will investigate at some point.
I am trying to focus back on music. Let me catch up and discover what you are talking about and I will try to come up with a solution.
I have not even been using these presets lately, so I don't even know how they work anymore!  Hahahaha
In the mean time take your question about the hand over to the ableton live forum, someone there might know how to access or what commands are involved.
With autohotkey we can map "many" things (either midi events or pc key to key stacks of commands, actions or other commands in Live.
However, it does involve coding(ok - not coding but scripting).

Kip

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "erikjalevik" <erikjalevik@...> wrote:

>
> I recently got a BCR2000, and am quite impressed with the Mackie control preset for Ableton Live by genmce.
> 
> I love being able to switch banks and channels and have all the controls follow along. There is one thing I'm missing though, and I'm wondering if it's possible to achieve. I'll illustrate with an example.
> 
> Say I have an EQ device on each track as the first device. I can click on it with the mouse, it'll get the "hand" and then I can use the d.pots. Brilliant. However, even better would be to have it always follow along when switching channels. So that the same knobs on the BCR would always control the EQ for whichever track I happen to have selected.
> 
> It sort of half-works if I first select the device in Live with the mouse, then move to a different track with a channel select button and that new channel has a clip in the current slot. The "hand" will then move to the EQ device of the new channel. If there is no clip in the slot however, the hand doesn't move. The hand also doesn't move if using the cursor knob instead of the channel select buttons.
> 
> Is there a way to set the hand via MIDI? So that e.g. every time I select a new channel, a message will go to Live saying "put the hand on the first device in the device chain for the active channel"?
> 
> Thanks
>

It seems this is indeed possible from Live 8. Details are here if you want to play around with it:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=116078

I'm familiar with Autohotkey but would prefer to not rely on third-party apps running if possible. I would have thought you should be able to get a button to send more than one MIDI event by specifying .tx commands in BCManager?

Oh, and while I have you on the line so to speak, I was looking at the preset definition for the cursor movement knob, and it's using a .tx line to send out a Note On value repeatedly. What I couldn't really understand though was what determines the speed that these messages are sent with. It seems I have to turn the knob quite a bit to get the next one to emit. I would like to speed this up to make the control more sensitive. I tried playing with the resolution values but it didn't seem to have any effect.

Thanks

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "-" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:

>
> That is an interesting thought, I will investigate at some point.
> I am trying to focus back on music. Let me catch up and discover what you are talking about and I will try to come up with a solution.
> I have not even been using these presets lately, so I don't even know how they work anymore!  Hahahaha
> In the mean time take your question about the hand over to the ableton live forum, someone there might know how to access or what commands are involved.
> With autohotkey we can map "many" things (either midi events or pc key to key stacks of commands, actions or other commands in Live.
> However, it does involve coding(ok - not coding but scripting).
> 
> Kip

Yeah, you can stack commands. 
As for the speed of the note on msgs for the 
cursor, I am not sure, and I have not looked at 
it for a while.
I meant using ahk to convert midi to keyboard short cuts. 
There are many control possibilities not available just in mackie. 
I can imaging, tho I have not coded it specifically, the dpots, when touched 
sending out the mouse click on the first item in the fx, to give the autoselect
eq, or whatever is the first effect. 
I know, no one wants to use someother program 
to do what the software should to begin with. 
Ahk exe or scripts are very small and pretty stable.  

I don't have live 8! 

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "erikjalevik" <erikjalevik@...> wrote:

>
> It seems this is indeed possible from Live 8. Details are here if you want to play around with it:
> 
> http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=116078
> 
> I'm familiar with Autohotkey but would prefer to not rely on third-party apps running if possible. I would have thought you should be able to get a button to send more than one MIDI event by specifying .tx commands in BCManager?
> 
> Oh, and while I have you on the line so to speak, I was looking at the preset definition for the cursor movement knob, and it's using a .tx line to send out a Note On value repeatedly. What I couldn't really understand though was what determines the speed that these messages are sent with. It seems I have to turn the knob quite a bit to get the next one to emit. I would like to speed this up to make the control more sensitive. I tried playing with the resolution values but it didn't seem to have any effect.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "-" <k5kip_1999@> wrote:
> >
> > That is an interesting thought, I will investigate at some point.
> > I am trying to focus back on music. Let me catch up and discover what you are talking about and I will try to come up with a solution.
> > I have not even been using these presets lately, so I don't even know how they work anymore!  Hahahaha
> > In the mean time take your question about the hand over to the ableton live forum, someone there might know how to access or what commands are involved.
> > With autohotkey we can map "many" things (either midi events or pc key to key stacks of commands, actions or other commands in Live.
> > However, it does involve coding(ok - not coding but scripting).
> > 
> > Kip
>