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BCF2000 Firmware Woes!

BCF2000 Firmware Woes!

2012-03-26 by timmox

Hi Guys,

Thanks for letting me join your group! I've just picked up a second hand BCF2000. It seems functional but it is running the 1.03 firmware. I believe this version is flaky at best. I tried updating straight to the 1.10 FW size 70kb from Behringers site but this did not seem to work. I noticed that there was also a much bigger 1.07 FW size 850kb so thought I may need this first before I can apply the 1.10 FW. Anyway, the 1.07 FW download link on Behringers site just takes you to their main page. I've reported this to them but not surprisingly I've had absolutely no response.

Can any one help with my predicament?

Cheers,

Tim.

Re: BCF2000 Firmware Woes!

2012-03-26 by Mark v.d. Berg

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "timmox" <timmox@...> wrote:
> I've just picked up a second hand BCF2000. It seems functional but it is running the 1.03 firmware. I believe this version is flaky at best. I tried updating straight to the 1.10 FW size 70kb from Behringers site but this did not seem to work. I noticed that there was also a much bigger 1.07 FW size 850kb so thought I may need this first before I can apply the 1.10 FW. Anyway, the 1.07 FW download link on Behringers site just takes you to their main page. I've reported this to them but not surprisingly I've had absolutely no response.

Yes, that link for 1.07 seems wrong.

But in any case you don't need to install 1.07 first before 1.10,
and 1.07's firmware data as such isn't bigger than 1.10: it's simply that the zip file for 1.07 contains a 776 kB "readme" pdf file.

> Can any one help with my predicament?

First question: which operating system are you on?

If you're on Windows, you can use my BC Manager to update the firmware, so I could give you further instructions then.

However, I'm also very interested in the data of your 1.03 firmware, for various reasons.
So I would be very grateful if you could retrieve your 1.03 firmware data from your BCF2000 before you upgrade to 1.10. If you're on Windows, I'll tell you how to do this.

Mark.

Re: [bc2000] Re: BCF2000 Firmware Woes!

2012-03-26 by Timmox

Hi Mark,

Thank you very much for your quick response. It is much appreciated. I'm glad to hear I can go directly to the 1.10 FW. I am running Windows XP SP3 and have tried using Behringers "Firmware Update Utility" without success. The utility see the BCF2000 and reports the current FW. However, when I click OK to flash it the utility just quits. I have Zonealarm and Avast free running. Do you think they could be interfering with the flash process?

Yes, you have been most helpful so I will gladly retrieve my 1.03 FW for you. Just let me know how to do it.

Cheers,

Tim.


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 From: Mark v.d. Berg <markwinvdb@...>
To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, 26 March 2012, 11:51
Subject: [bc2000] Re: BCF2000 Firmware Woes!
 

  
--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "timmox" <timmox@...> wrote:
> I've just picked up a second hand BCF2000. It seems functional but it is running the 1.03 firmware. I believe this version is flaky at best. I tried updating straight to the 1.10 FW size 70kb from Behringers site but this did not seem to work. I noticed that there was also a much bigger 1.07 FW size 850kb so thought I may need this first before I can apply the 1.10 FW. Anyway, the 1.07 FW download link on Behringers site just takes you to their main page. I've reported this to them but not surprisingly I've had absolutely no response.

Yes, that link for 1.07 seems wrong.

But in any case you don't need to install 1.07 first before 1.10,
and 1.07's firmware data as such isn't bigger than 1.10: it's simply that the zip file for 1.07 contains a 776 kB "readme" pdf file.

> Can any one help with my predicament?

First question: which operating system are you on?

If you're on Windows, you can use my BC Manager to update the firmware, so I could give you further instructions then.

However, I'm also very interested in the data of your 1.03 firmware, for various reasons.
So I would be very grateful if you could retrieve your 1.03 firmware data from your BCF2000 before you upgrade to 1.10. If you're on Windows, I'll tell you how to do this.

Mark.

Re: BCF2000 Firmware Woes!

2012-03-26 by Mark v.d. Berg

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Timmox <timmox@...> wrote:
> Thank you very much for your quick response. It is much appreciated. I'm glad to hear I can go directly to the 1.10 FW.

I've taken a look at "Firmware_v1.07_readme.pdf", included in the zip file for 1.07: it contains essential documentation of the BCF's "emulation modes", so you should definitely get this zip file somehow.
If it really can't be downloaded from the Behringer site, I could upload it to the file section of this Yahoo group.

I gather from the pdf that these emulation modes were introduced in 1.06, so if you've got 1.03, you're REALLY missing something...

> I am running Windows XP SP3 and have tried using Behringers "Firmware Update Utility" without success. The utility see the BCF2000 and reports the current FW. However, when I click OK to flash it the utility just quits.

If I remember correctly, Behringer's firmware update utility never worked for me either.

> I have Zonealarm and Avast free running. Do you think they could be interfering with the flash process?

I have never run these security pachages, so I think these have nothing to do with the problem.

> Yes, you have been most helpful so I will gladly retrieve my 1.03 FW for you. Just let me know how to do it.

Thanks very much!
I'll do my best:

You need to send a particular sequence of MIDI System Exclusive (SysEx) messages to the BCF, requesting the firmware, and then "catch" the BCF's sequence of responses (also SysEx) and save these to a file.

Steps:

1. Download my "MIDI Tools" utility from http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/miditls.html , and install it. (You can uninstall it afterwards, if you like.)

2. Download http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/download/BCF_Get_Firmware.zip (directly from your web browser) and unzip BCF_Get_Firmware.syx. (This file contains the SysEx commands to send to the BCF.)

3. I assume you've successfully installed a USB driver for your BCF2000 (either Windows' default "USB Audio Device", or a Behringer driver, preferably 1.2.1.3)?

4. Start your BCF and put it in Operating Mode U-1.

5. Start MIDI Tools.

6. In MIDI Tools' main window, open Options -> MIDI devices.
On the Input and Output tabs, make sure that the BCF2000 devices are enabled.

7. Open View -> Input messages.

8. In the "MIDI input messages" window, press "Record".

9. From MIDI Tools' main window, open View -> System Exclusive messages.

10. In the "MIDI System Exclusive messages" window, set "Output device" to the BCF2000 device. ("Input device" doesn't matter.)

11. IMPORTANT: set "Delay/messages (ms)" to something like 50.
(Otherwise the BCF won't be able to keep up, so you might not get all the required firmware messages back.)

12. Open the downloaded BCF_Get_Firmware.syx file via File -> Insert.
This should lead to a list of exactly 272 SysEx messages.

13. Select (highlight) all the 272 messages via Edit -> Select all.

14. Press the "Play" button and wait until the dialog box closes.

15. The "MIDI input messages" window should now have received exactly 272 messages of length 304 (see the "Length" column).
Select all these 272 received messages via Edit -> Select all, then run File -> "Save system exclusive messages", to e.g. "BCF103.syx".
This file should be exactly 82,688 bytes long.
You can send it to my email address as an attachment.

By the way: you should NOT try to send the generated file (BCF103.syx) BACK to the BCF, because it isn't a valid firmware file. (It needs to be converted.)

To upload firmware version 1.10, you can use BC Manager: http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/bcman.html
For information on the upload procedure, see the BC Manager manual, p. 38.

Good luck! (I can only hope I haven't left out any crucial steps...)

Mark.

Re: BCF2000 Firmware Woes!

2012-03-28 by at2cn

Hi

The readme file is also included with the bcr2000 V1.07 firmware:
http://www.behringerdownload.de/B-Control_download/bcr2000_107.zip

(of course the firmware in there is for the BCR)

Ernst


--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> --- In bc2000@...m, Timmox <timmox@> wrote:
> > Thank you very much for your quick response. It is much appreciated. I'm glad to hear I can go directly to the 1.10 FW.
> 
> I've taken a look at "Firmware_v1.07_readme.pdf", included in the zip file for 1.07: it contains essential documentation of the BCF's "emulation modes", so you should definitely get this zip file somehow.
> If it really can't be downloaded from the Behringer site, I could upload it to the file section of this Yahoo group.
> 
> I gather from the pdf that these emulation modes were introduced in 1.06, so if you've got 1.03, you're REALLY missing something...
> 
> > I am running Windows XP SP3 and have tried using Behringers "Firmware Update Utility" without success. The utility see the BCF2000 and reports the current FW. However, when I click OK to flash it the utility just quits.
> 
> If I remember correctly, Behringer's firmware update utility never worked for me either.
> 
> > I have Zonealarm and Avast free running. Do you think they could be interfering with the flash process?
> 
> I have never run these security pachages, so I think these have nothing to do with the problem.
> 
> > Yes, you have been most helpful so I will gladly retrieve my 1.03 FW for you. Just let me know how to do it.
> 
> Thanks very much!
> I'll do my best:
> 
> You need to send a particular sequence of MIDI System Exclusive (SysEx) messages to the BCF, requesting the firmware, and then "catch" the BCF's sequence of responses (also SysEx) and save these to a file.
> 
> Steps:
> 
> 1. Download my "MIDI Tools" utility from http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/miditls.html , and install it. (You can uninstall it afterwards, if you like.)
> 
> 2. Download http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/download/BCF_Get_Firmware.zip (directly from your web browser) and unzip BCF_Get_Firmware.syx. (This file contains the SysEx commands to send to the BCF.)
> 
> 3. I assume you've successfully installed a USB driver for your BCF2000 (either Windows' default "USB Audio Device", or a Behringer driver, preferably 1.2.1.3)?
> 
> 4. Start your BCF and put it in Operating Mode U-1.
> 
> 5. Start MIDI Tools.
> 
> 6. In MIDI Tools' main window, open Options -> MIDI devices.
> On the Input and Output tabs, make sure that the BCF2000 devices are enabled.
> 
> 7. Open View -> Input messages.
> 
> 8. In the "MIDI input messages" window, press "Record".
> 
> 9. From MIDI Tools' main window, open View -> System Exclusive messages.
> 
> 10. In the "MIDI System Exclusive messages" window, set "Output device" to the BCF2000 device. ("Input device" doesn't matter.)
> 
> 11. IMPORTANT: set "Delay/messages (ms)" to something like 50.
> (Otherwise the BCF won't be able to keep up, so you might not get all the required firmware messages back.)
> 
> 12. Open the downloaded BCF_Get_Firmware.syx file via File -> Insert.
> This should lead to a list of exactly 272 SysEx messages.
> 
> 13. Select (highlight) all the 272 messages via Edit -> Select all.
> 
> 14. Press the "Play" button and wait until the dialog box closes.
> 
> 15. The "MIDI input messages" window should now have received exactly 272 messages of length 304 (see the "Length" column).
> Select all these 272 received messages via Edit -> Select all, then run File -> "Save system exclusive messages", to e.g. "BCF103.syx".
> This file should be exactly 82,688 bytes long.
> You can send it to my email address as an attachment.
> 
> By the way: you should NOT try to send the generated file (BCF103.syx) BACK to the BCF, because it isn't a valid firmware file. (It needs to be converted.)
> 
> To upload firmware version 1.10, you can use BC Manager: http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/bcman.html
> For information on the upload procedure, see the BC Manager manual, p. 38.
> 
> Good luck! (I can only hope I haven't left out any crucial steps...)
> 
> Mark.
>

Re: [bc2000] Re: BCF2000 Firmware Woes!

2012-03-28 by Timmox

Many thanks Ernst,

I hope to retrieve the 1.03 and update to the 1.10 this weekend. Fingers crossed!

Cheers,

Tim.


________________________________
 From: at2cn <at2cn@...>
To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 8:33
Subject: [bc2000] Re: BCF2000 Firmware Woes!
 

  
Hi

The readme file is also included with the bcr2000 V1.07 firmware:
http://www.behringerdownload.de/B-Control_download/bcr2000_107.zip

(of course the firmware in there is for the BCR)

Ernst

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Timmox <timmox@> wrote:
> > Thank you very much for your quick response. It is much appreciated. I'm glad to hear I can go directly to the 1.10 FW.
> 
> I've taken a look at "Firmware_v1.07_readme.pdf", included in the zip file for 1.07: it contains essential documentation of the BCF's "emulation modes", so you should definitely get this zip file somehow.
> If it really can't be downloaded from the Behringer site, I could upload it to the file section of this Yahoo group.
> 
> I gather from the pdf that these emulation modes were introduced in 1.06, so if you've got 1.03, you're REALLY missing something...
> 
> > I am running Windows XP SP3 and have tried using Behringers "Firmware Update Utility" without success. The utility see the BCF2000 and reports the current FW. However, when I click OK to flash it the utility just quits.
> 
> If I remember correctly, Behringer's firmware update utility never worked for me either.
> 
> > I have Zonealarm and Avast free running. Do you think they could be interfering with the flash process?
> 
> I have never run these security pachages, so I think these have nothing to do with the problem.
> 
> > Yes, you have been most helpful so I will gladly retrieve my 1.03 FW for you. Just let me know how to do it.
> 
> Thanks very much!
> I'll do my best:
> 
> You need to send a particular sequence of MIDI System Exclusive (SysEx) messages to the BCF, requesting the firmware, and then "catch" the BCF's sequence of responses (also SysEx) and save these to a file.
> 
> Steps:
> 
> 1. Download my "MIDI Tools" utility from http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/miditls.html , and install it. (You can uninstall it afterwards, if you like.)
> 
> 2. Download http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/download/BCF_Get_Firmware.zip (directly from your web browser) and unzip BCF_Get_Firmware.syx. (This file contains the SysEx commands to send to the BCF.)
> 
> 3. I assume you've successfully installed a USB driver for your BCF2000 (either Windows' default "USB Audio Device", or a Behringer driver, preferably 1.2.1.3)?
> 
> 4. Start your BCF and put it in Operating Mode U-1.
> 
> 5. Start MIDI Tools.
> 
> 6. In MIDI Tools' main window, open Options -> MIDI devices.
> On the Input and Output tabs, make sure that the BCF2000 devices are enabled.
> 
> 7. Open View -> Input messages.
> 
> 8. In the "MIDI input messages" window, press "Record".
> 
> 9. From MIDI Tools' main window, open View -> System Exclusive messages.
> 
> 10. In the "MIDI System Exclusive messages" window, set "Output device" to the BCF2000 device. ("Input device" doesn't matter.)
> 
> 11. IMPORTANT: set "Delay/messages (ms)" to something like 50.
> (Otherwise the BCF won't be able to keep up, so you might not get all the required firmware messages back.)
> 
> 12. Open the downloaded BCF_Get_Firmware.syx file via File -> Insert.
> This should lead to a list of exactly 272 SysEx messages.
> 
> 13. Select (highlight) all the 272 messages via Edit -> Select all.
> 
> 14. Press the "Play" button and wait until the dialog box closes.
> 
> 15. The "MIDI input messages" window should now have received exactly 272 messages of length 304 (see the "Length" column).
> Select all these 272 received messages via Edit -> Select all, then run File -> "Save system exclusive messages", to e.g. "BCF103.syx".
> This file should be exactly 82,688 bytes long.
> You can send it to my email address as an attachment.
> 
> By the way: you should NOT try to send the generated file (BCF103.syx) BACK to the BCF, because it isn't a valid firmware file. (It needs to be converted.)
> 
> To upload firmware version 1.10, you can use BC Manager: http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/bcman.html
> For information on the upload procedure, see the BC Manager manual, p. 38.
> 
> Good luck! (I can only hope I haven't left out any crucial steps...)
> 
> Mark.
>

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