Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

>
> Hi everyone,
> 
> BC Manager 2.4.1 is now available from the Mountain Utilities web site:
> http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/
> 
> This version 'only' contains some improvements and additions to peripheral MIDI utilities (cf. the MIDI Tools program):
> 
> - New: the 'MIDI System messages' window, which allows you to send System Exclusive/Common/Real-time messages for testing purposes.
> 
> - A significant overhaul of the MIDI controllers window, with many new display options.
> 
> - The MIDI keyboard window can now also switch a key off by a Note Off message (with customizable 'offset velocity').
> 
> - A few minor bug fixes.
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Mark van den Berg.
>

>
> I cannot speak for Mark, but MIDI Ox is more a "MIDI swiss-army knife",
> which can find its use with any MIDI device. For instance I use it to
> send/receive SysEx dumps from/to my instruments. Also, MIDI Ox is very
> generic, while BC Manager targets specific device.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bruno
> 
> 
> 2013/4/15 mmruijgrok <senang@...>
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just bought a BCR-2000 and I have yet to set it up but I think your tool
> > will provide to be very usefull so thanks!
> >
> > I have one question though. I also read about Midi-OX. As I understand
> > these are similair programs. Could you advice me about the differences and
> > 'sell' your product? ;)
> >
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > BC Manager 2.4.1 is now available from the Mountain Utilities web site:
> > > http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/
> > >
> > > This version 'only' contains some improvements and additions to
> > peripheral MIDI utilities (cf. the MIDI Tools program):
> > >
> > > - New: the 'MIDI System messages' window, which allows you to send
> > System Exclusive/Common/Real-time messages for testing purposes.
> > >
> > > - A significant overhaul of the MIDI controllers window, with many new
> > display options.
> > >
> > > - The MIDI keyboard window can now also switch a key off by a Note Off
> > message (with customizable 'offset velocity').
> > >
> > > - A few minor bug fixes.
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > >
> > > Mark van den Berg.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> I would say that BC Manager will let you do *a lot*, and it goes far beyond
> the possibilities of MIDI learn. I like its ability to configure BCR to
> send SysEx messages, since it allows to control older synths from pre
> "a-knob-for-all" era. It can also assign more than one message to a
> knob/button, so you can control the overall "image" of the sound.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bruno
> 
> 
> 2013/4/16 mmruijgrok <senang@...>
> 
> > Thanks Bruno,
> >
> > That indeed seems pretty obvious. Parts of my brain probably were inactive
> > when I asked the question ;). Then again, I'm pretty new to this MIDI stuff
> > so my logic sometimes seem to fail me in that regard.
> >
> > Do you also happen to know if BC Manager will let me set up control
> > surfaces that can't be achieved with regular MIDI-learn (I use Sonar X2) or
> > will it just be more visible and easier?
> >
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Bruno <brunorc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I cannot speak for Mark, but MIDI Ox is more a "MIDI swiss-army knife",
> > > which can find its use with any MIDI device. For instance I use it to
> > > send/receive SysEx dumps from/to my instruments. Also, MIDI Ox is very
> > > generic, while BC Manager targets specific device.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Bruno
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/4/15 mmruijgrok <senang@>
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I just bought a BCR-2000 and I have yet to set it up but I think your
> > tool
> > > > will provide to be very usefull so thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I have one question though. I also read about Midi-OX. As I understand
> > > > these are similair programs. Could you advice me about the differences
> > and
> > > > 'sell' your product? ;)
> > > >
> > > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > BC Manager 2.4.1 is now available from the Mountain Utilities web
> > site:
> > > > > http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/
> > > > >
> > > > > This version 'only' contains some improvements and additions to
> > > > peripheral MIDI utilities (cf. the MIDI Tools program):
> > > > >
> > > > > - New: the 'MIDI System messages' window, which allows you to send
> > > > System Exclusive/Common/Real-time messages for testing purposes.
> > > > >
> > > > > - A significant overhaul of the MIDI controllers window, with many
> > new
> > > > display options.
> > > > >
> > > > > - The MIDI keyboard window can now also switch a key off by a Note
> > Off
> > > > message (with customizable 'offset velocity').
> > > > >
> > > > > - A few minor bug fixes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark van den Berg.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> Wow, my mistake. Never used Learn mode for anything - I'm hardware-only
> dude...
> 
> 
> 2013/4/16 mmruijgrok <senang@...>
> 
> > Ok, Thanks. I think I'll just have to check it out in practice.
> >
> > As I mentioned I'm pretty new at this so at this (theoretical) point I
> > can't really tell what's usefull to me. Even with MIDI-learn or ACT-control
> > I can set several messages to one knob so..
> >
> > On the other hand I understand it's likely that a program specifically
> > written for a controller should offer great control.
> >
> >
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Bruno <brunorc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I would say that BC Manager will let you do *a lot*, and it goes far
> > beyond
> > > the possibilities of MIDI learn. I like its ability to configure BCR to
> > > send SysEx messages, since it allows to control older synths from pre
> > > "a-knob-for-all" era. It can also assign more than one message to a
> > > knob/button, so you can control the overall "image" of the sound.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Bruno
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/4/16 mmruijgrok <senang@>
> > >
> > > > Thanks Bruno,
> > > >
> > > > That indeed seems pretty obvious. Parts of my brain probably were
> > inactive
> > > > when I asked the question ;). Then again, I'm pretty new to this MIDI
> > stuff
> > > > so my logic sometimes seem to fail me in that regard.
> > > >
> > > > Do you also happen to know if BC Manager will let me set up control
> > > > surfaces that can't be achieved with regular MIDI-learn (I use Sonar
> > X2) or
> > > > will it just be more visible and easier?
> > > >
> > > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Bruno <brunorc@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I cannot speak for Mark, but MIDI Ox is more a "MIDI swiss-army
> > knife",
> > > > > which can find its use with any MIDI device. For instance I use it to
> > > > > send/receive SysEx dumps from/to my instruments. Also, MIDI Ox is
> > very
> > > > > generic, while BC Manager targets specific device.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Bruno
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/4/15 mmruijgrok <senang@>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just bought a BCR-2000 and I have yet to set it up but I think
> > your
> > > > tool
> > > > > > will provide to be very usefull so thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have one question though. I also read about Midi-OX. As I
> > understand
> > > > > > these are similair programs. Could you advice me about the
> > differences
> > > > and
> > > > > > 'sell' your product? ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BC Manager 2.4.1 is now available from the Mountain Utilities web
> > > > site:
> > > > > > > http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This version 'only' contains some improvements and additions to
> > > > > > peripheral MIDI utilities (cf. the MIDI Tools program):
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - New: the 'MIDI System messages' window, which allows you to
> > send
> > > > > > System Exclusive/Common/Real-time messages for testing purposes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - A significant overhaul of the MIDI controllers window, with
> > many
> > > > new
> > > > > > display options.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - The MIDI keyboard window can now also switch a key off by a
> > Note
> > > > Off
> > > > > > message (with customizable 'offset velocity').
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - A few minor bug fixes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Enjoy!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mark van den Berg.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ------------------------------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, Bruno <brunorc@> wrote:
> > I cannot speak for Mark, but MIDI Ox is more a "MIDI swiss-army knife",
> > which can find its use with any MIDI device. For instance I use it to
> > send/receive SysEx dumps from/to my instruments. Also, MIDI Ox is very
> > generic, while BC Manager targets specific device.
> 
> Yes, BC Manager does target the BCF/BCR2000, but these devices themselves target "any" receiving MIDI device (hardware/software synth, DAW etc.), which is why BC Manager includes quite a few "generic" tools that can assist in setting up the BCF/BCR2000 for specific devices.
> 
> One advantage of including these generic tools in BC Manager (and in many of my other Mountain Utilities editors for specific hardware) is that some MIDI I/O device drivers are "single-client", i.e. they can only be accessed by one program at a time - which can make testing (e.g. via MIDI-OX or my own MIDI Tools) cumbersome.
> 
> Several years ago I had developed so many generic tools for my various editors that I decided to collect them into a single, generic program: MIDI Tools.
> However, since MIDI-OX was already out there, at first I didn't see much point in publishing MIDI Tools.
> But then I thought that people accustomed to these tools via BC Manager (etc.) might find MIDI Tools useful anyway, so in the end I did release it, and it has been growing further after that.
> 
> Currently MIDI Tools offers quite a few things MIDI-OX doesn't, such as a MIDI keyboard, a MIDI controller "board" and Mackie monitors.
> I'm also very proud of MIDI Tools' facilities for sending and receiving System Exclusive messages to/from any MIDI device.
> I also like MIDI Tools' input message monitor window a bit better than the slightly chaotic one in MIDI-OX, but this may be a matter of taste and/or bias...
> 
> On the other hand, MIDI-OX offers sophisticated redirection and mapping tools between devices - and since MIDI-OX does so, I've always thought it pointless to simply copy these tools in MIDI Tools. (In MIDI Tools you CAN actually make "thru" connections between MIDI devices, but only passively, and without support for SysEx events.)
> 
> One final point for clarification: if I'm not mistaken, BC Manager currently includes all the tools present in MIDI Tools.
> However, that may change in the future: in fact I delayed BC Manager 2.4.1 for several months because I was in doubt whether it should include MIDI Tools' new "System messages" window: BC Manager is complicated enough as it is, and it's getting to a point where it might start turning into bloatware...
> 
> Mark.
>

>
> I cannot speak for Mark, but MIDI Ox is more a "MIDI swiss-army knife",
> which can find its use with any MIDI device. For instance I use it to
> send/receive SysEx dumps from/to my instruments. Also, MIDI Ox is very
> generic, while BC Manager targets specific device.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bruno
> 
> 
> 2013/4/15 mmruijgrok <senang@...>
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just bought a BCR-2000 and I have yet to set it up but I think your tool
> > will provide to be very usefull so thanks!
> >
> > I have one question though. I also read about Midi-OX. As I understand
> > these are similair programs. Could you advice me about the differences and
> > 'sell' your product? ;)
> >
> > --- In mailto:bc2000%40yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi everyone,
> > >
> > > BC Manager 2.4.1 is now available from the Mountain Utilities web site:
> > > http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/
> > >
> > > This version 'only' contains some improvements and additions to
> > peripheral MIDI utilities (cf. the MIDI Tools program):
> > >
> > > - New: the 'MIDI System messages' window, which allows you to send
> > System Exclusive/Common/Real-time messages for testing purposes.
> > >
> > > - A significant overhaul of the MIDI controllers window, with many new
> > display options.
> > >
> > > - The MIDI keyboard window can now also switch a key off by a Note Off
> > message (with customizable 'offset velocity').
> > >
> > > - A few minor bug fixes.
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > >
> > > Mark van den Berg.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

>
> Hi, is there any BCR2000 editor for Mac? My intention is to control via sysex some old synths.
> Any suggestion?
> Thx so much
> 
> De: mmruijgrok <senang@...>
> Para: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
> Enviado: Martes, 16 de abril, 2013 4:30 A.M.
> Asunto: [bc2000] Re: BC Manager 2.4.1 released!
> 
> Â  
> Thanks Bruno,
> 
> That indeed seems pretty obvious. Parts of my brain probably were inactive when I asked the question ;). Then again, I'm pretty new to this MIDI stuff so my logic sometimes seem to fail me in that regard. 
> 
> Do you also happen to know if BC Manager will let me set up control surfaces that can't be achieved with regular MIDI-learn (I use Sonar X2) or will it just be more visible and easier? 
> 
> --- In mailto:bc2000%40yahoogroups.com, Bruno <brunorc@> wrote:
> >
> > I cannot speak for Mark, but MIDI Ox is more a "MIDI swiss-army knife",
> > which can find its use with any MIDI device. For instance I use it to
> > send/receive SysEx dumps from/to my instruments. Also, MIDI Ox is very
> > generic, while BC Manager targets specific device.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Bruno
> > 
> > 
> > 2013/4/15 mmruijgrok <senang@>
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I just bought a BCR-2000 and I have yet to set it up but I think your tool
> > > will provide to be very usefull so thanks!
> > >
> > > I have one question though. I also read about Midi-OX. As I understand
> > > these are similair programs. Could you advice me about the differences and
> > > 'sell' your product? ;)
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:bc2000%40yahoogroups.com, "Mark v.d. Berg" <markwinvdb@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > >
> > > > BC Manager 2.4.1 is now available from the Mountain Utilities web site:
> > > > http://home.kpn.nl/f2hmjvandenberg281/
> > > >
> > > > This version 'only' contains some improvements and additions to
> > > peripheral MIDI utilities (cf. the MIDI Tools program):
> > > >
> > > > - New: the 'MIDI System messages' window, which allows you to send
> > > System Exclusive/Common/Real-time messages for testing purposes.
> > > >
> > > > - A significant overhaul of the MIDI controllers window, with many new
> > > display options.
> > > >
> > > > - The MIDI keyboard window can now also switch a key off by a Note Off
> > > message (with customizable 'offset velocity').
> > > >
> > > > - A few minor bug fixes.
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy!
> > > >
> > > > Mark van den Berg.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>