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Re: VCO saw shape

2006-03-08 by c10h14no2i

YES That works perfectly.

these analog circuits sure are tempermental. Why do different people
get completely different results? Ive had a few modules now where
I've had to change out components. 1/2 the people who helped me say
"it should work fine as it is in the schematics" and the other 1/2 say
"I had to change such and such to get it to work"

Owell..
Thanks for your help!!

--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "josh summitt" <ascetik@...> wrote:
>
> I've built two of these VCO's and on both of them i had to lower the
gain so
> that the SAW would not hit the voltage rails. I changed the 330k
resistor in
> the feedback loop of the tl072. Change it to a lower value. It
should not
> take much like maybe a 250k or something. I can't remember exactly
what i
> used.
> Josh
>
> On 3/8/06, c10h14no2i <c10h14no2i@...> wrote:
> >
> > I did check both resistors.. I even replaced them with what you have
> > specified in the schemo's.
> >
> > When I test using the AC output from the VCO, I get +5/-15 volts.
> > When I test w/ the DC output from the VCO the bottom of the wave
> > starts at about +10 volts, and goes up to where I guess its clipping.
> > I dont understand why there is such a difference between the ac and dc
> > outputs. (does that give you any clues?)
> >
> > Then I dont understand why the square output is centered on 0, when it
> > is getting its input from the saw, which is messed up.
> >
> > Also, I tested the output of the ca3140, and its a perfect saw
> > centered on 0
> >
> > That sure narrows down where the trouble could be coming form.
> > BUT, I have gone through, checked every component around the tl072,
> > and heated each solder point to make sure its good. Still have the
> > same problem. I know the circuit works, so Ive got to be missing
> > something... I just can't find it!
> > Is it possible that something is wrong w/ the tl074? Can an IC kind
> > of work, or are they just good or bad? (unfortunately I built this
> > module before I learned the value of ic sockets)
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> >
> > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@ wrote:
> > >
> > > The 240k is the offset resistor. it sounds like the resistor you
have in
> > > there is too small, perhaps not a 270k at all.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > >Sorry for the basic question, but which are the offset
resistors? The
> > > >ones around the tl072 that outputs to the saw out?
> > > >
> > > >If so, I should mention I am using a 270k instead of the 240k,
and a
> > > >560k instead of the 330k, which is what the elby instructions
said to
> > > >do. I think everything else is per the schematics.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@ wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Usually caused by the signal hitting a power rail and running
out of
> > > >> anywhere to go. It's what i'd expect to find if an offset
resistor
> > > >was not
> > > >> soldered in propperly (or the wrong value), or some other voltage
> > > >> determining part. The name givven to this is "clipping".
> > > >>
> > > >> Ken
> > > >>
> > > >> >I got a working scope today, and the saw out of the VCO is very
> > > >> >strange. Rather than /|/|/|/| it goes -\-\-\-\. That is the
> > best I
> > > >> >can do, but the 1st example should be a normal saw, and the 2nd
> > > >> >example, whats going on is that it goes straight up, has a flat
> > top,
> > > >> >then slopes down. I tested my paia VCO and the shapes are fine,
> > so Im
> > > >> >sure Im using the scope correctly.
> > > >> >Any idea what could be causing this?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Thanks,
> > > >> >Scott
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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