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Re: CGS26 analog logic for electronic drum triggering?

2011-05-31 by Dennis Chang

Yes, the signal being fed into your CGS26 won't be processed per se--it'll be
raw voltage waveforms directly from the transducers--but it definitely has a
shape that is later processed by the brain and formed into a MIDI envelope.

I'll order a CGS26 right away and start tinkering. This could solve a huge
problem for electronic drummers, as current e-drum technology doesn't simulate
snare drum or hi-hat behavior very well at all. It changes the way we play in
ways that don't translate over to a real drumset.

Thanks, Ken!



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From: "sasami@..." <sasami@...>
To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 10:42:55 PM
Subject: Re: [cgs_synth] Re: CGS26 analog logic for electronic drum triggering?


Oh, so the drum triggers are a processed waveform containing velocity and
perhaps some sort of envelope?
In that case the CGS26 may do what you want.

Ken

>I took a look at the monostable approach. It made me realize that I forgot to
>mention that the drum triggers are velocity sensitive. That is to say, the
>voltage waveform should be preserved and passed through to the MIDI brain. A
>monostable with logic gate wouldn't work, whereas the Analog Logic AND should
>(unless I'm misunderstanding it) pass through the exact ANDed waveform.
>
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>From: cg_synth <sasami@...>
>To: cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 11:18:46 PM
>Subject: [cgs_synth] Re: CGS26 analog logic for electronic drum triggering?
>
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>I doubt the two drum signals would coincide for long enough to generate a
useful
>output. I'd suggest firing off some sort of monostable and using a logic gate
>connected to that.
>
>Ken
>
>--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "dchang813" <dchang813@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi--
>>
>> I've been looking for a way to combine the AC voltages from two separate
piezo
>>transducers such that I can detect when both have been struck at the same
time.
>>The analog AND feature of the CGS26 seems perfect, but considering that the
>>waveforms of drum triggers are typically very short spikes (sudden high
jump in
>>voltage that disappears within milliseconds or possibly shorter), it
raises the
>>question of--for lack of a better phrase--"time slice resolution."
>>
>> That is to say:
>>
>> Is there a time-slice resolution unit under which a few-millisecond voltage
>>spike in the waveform wouldn't be conveyed to the AND output?
>>
>>
>> I'm guessing no, since the analog AND should be able to combine waveforms
with
>>very high audible frequencies, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask before I
>>order. I guess other rewordings of the question are whether or not the
waveform
>>created by a piezo transducer being struck is an audible frequency or if the
>>highest frequency the CGS26 is high enough to capture the waveform of the
>>trigger strike.
>>
>> Thanks--looking forward to hearing from you and subsequently trying this
board
>>out!
>>
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