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CGS48 VCO core

2005-05-16 by allanjhall

I'm building the CGS48 VCO and also looking at the ASM-1 filter core
on which it's based. Unlike many VCO's it doesn't have any HF tracking
ajustment, so I'm wondering how well it tracks at higher frequencies?
The design looks simple compared with some other VCO's; but this isn't
necessarily a bad thing! I haven't heard any adverse comments on the
ASM-1 filter's tracking ability so I'd guess it's fine, I'm just
curious :-)

Also, there is a revision (V1.1) to the ASM-1 VCO here:-
http://home.swipnet.se/cfmd/synths/friends/stopp/asm1vco-1.1.pdf

It seems to be the same as the original ASM-1 schematic except that it
has an NPN transistor added between the output of LM311 (base) and the
18pf cap and 3k3 resistor (collector), the emitter goes to negative
supply rail. Any idea why this mod was added to ASM-1? Something to do
with sync perhaps? Just wondering if it would be beneficial to add it
to my CGS48.....

Allan

Re: CGS48 VCO core

2005-05-18 by allanjhall

Many thanks for the help Ken, hadn't realised there was so much
information on that site. I've a much better understanding of the VCO
core now, its a very clever oscillator design.....

Allan
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> Go to the site that has the original article and read about R* (the
680R)
> http://home.att.net/~synthsource/ens76/vco3.htm
> This provides the high frequency compensation.
>
> Ken
>
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Re: CGS48 VCO core

2005-05-18 by cgs@oldmail.charlielamm.com

The ASM VCO tracks well at High Frequencies, at least the ones I
have built are good in this regard.

BTW, not sure if this helps, but, Magnus Danielson suggested to me, when I
was building ASM VCOs (very similar in their core design to what Ken has),
to put a 10K multiturn trimmer between the 150K resistor and V++ (R15 on
the ASM pages; the 150K connected to the LM394 on Ken's site) for
tracking adjustment. This mod turned out to be a real time saver when it
came time to cal the circuit and may help Ken's VCO as well as far as
setup/calibration time is concerned. There's a bit more info about
"Magnus' mod" at my site:

http://www.charlielamm.com/synth/asmvco.php3
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On Mon, 16 May 2005, allanjhall wrote:

> I'm building the CGS48 VCO and also looking at the ASM-1 filter core
> on which it's based. Unlike many VCO's it doesn't have any HF tracking
> ajustment, so I'm wondering how well it tracks at higher frequencies?
> The design looks simple compared with some other VCO's; but this isn't
> necessarily a bad thing! I haven't heard any adverse comments on the
> ASM-1 filter's tracking ability so I'd guess it's fine, I'm just
> curious :-)
>
> Also, there is a revision (V1.1) to the ASM-1 VCO here:-
> http://home.swipnet.se/cfmd/synths/friends/stopp/asm1vco-1.1.pdf
>
> It seems to be the same as the original ASM-1 schematic except that it
> has an NPN transistor added between the output of LM311 (base) and the
> 18pf cap and 3k3 resistor (collector), the emitter goes to negative
> supply rail. Any idea why this mod was added to ASM-1? Something to do
> with sync perhaps? Just wondering if it would be beneficial to add it
> to my CGS48.....
>
> Allan
>
>
>
>
>
> See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home page:
> Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: CGS48 VCO core

2005-05-19 by allanjhall

Thanks for the tuning mod info Charlie, very useful. Some good stuff
on your site too, nice work!

Cheers,
Allan
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, <cgs@o...> wrote:
> The ASM VCO tracks well at High Frequencies, at least the ones I
> have built are good in this regard.
>
> BTW, not sure if this helps, but, Magnus Danielson suggested to
me, when I
> was building ASM VCOs (very similar in their core design to what
Ken has),
> to put a 10K multiturn trimmer between the 150K resistor and V++
(R15 on
> the ASM pages; the 150K connected to the LM394 on Ken's site) for
> tracking adjustment. This mod turned out to be a real time saver
when it
> came time to cal the circuit and may help Ken's VCO as well as far
as
> setup/calibration time is concerned. There's a bit more info about
> "Magnus' mod" at my site:
>
> http://www.charlielamm.com/synth/asmvco.php3
>
>
>
> On Mon, 16 May 2005, allanjhall wrote:
>
> > I'm building the CGS48 VCO and also looking at the ASM-1 filter
core
> > on which it's based. Unlike many VCO's it doesn't have any HF
tracking
> > ajustment, so I'm wondering how well it tracks at higher
frequencies?
> > The design looks simple compared with some other VCO's; but this
isn't
> > necessarily a bad thing! I haven't heard any adverse comments on
the
> > ASM-1 filter's tracking ability so I'd guess it's fine, I'm just
> > curious :-)
> >
> > Also, there is a revision (V1.1) to the ASM-1 VCO here:-
> > http://home.swipnet.se/cfmd/synths/friends/stopp/asm1vco-1.1.pdf
> >
> > It seems to be the same as the original ASM-1 schematic except
that it
> > has an NPN transistor added between the output of LM311 (base)
and the
> > 18pf cap and 3k3 resistor (collector), the emitter goes to
negative
> > supply rail. Any idea why this mod was added to ASM-1? Something
to do
> > with sync perhaps? Just wondering if it would be beneficial to
add it
> > to my CGS48.....
> >
> > Allan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home page:
> > Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> > Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

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