Real Ring and Oakley VCO - Problem
2005-07-13 by waveform100
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2005-07-13 by waveform100
2005-07-13 by sasami@hotkey.net.au
>When I patch a Sine from any of my Oakley VCO's into any of the Real_______________________________________________________________________
>Ring Inputs (or out) and hear at the same time the Sine (with a
>Multiple), the Sine is completely changed. I cannot hear the Ringmod-
>Outs at the same time as the unmodulated Sine from the VCO, because
>there is no Sine anymore. Its like the Real-Ring had some effect
>backwards to the VCO electronic.
>
>I don't get it.
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>The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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2005-07-14 by waveform100
--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@h... wrote:
> Signal into one end, output from the other end. Carrier (modulating
signal)
> into the center terminals. The ring mod will load the output of
what you
> connect it to, so if the output is very weak, it will drop in
volume. If you
> feed sine waves of the same frequency into both one end, and the
center, you
> will get a sine wave of twice the frequency out.
>
> Ken
>
> >When I patch a Sine from any of my Oakley VCO's into any of the
Real
> >Ring Inputs (or out) and hear at the same time the Sine (with a
> >Multiple), the Sine is completely changed. I cannot hear the
Ringmod-
> >Outs at the same time as the unmodulated Sine from the VCO,
because
> >there is no Sine anymore. Its like the Real-Ring had some effect
> >backwards to the VCO electronic.
> >
> >I don't get it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Ken Stone sasami@h... or sasami@c...
> Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
> Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies
<http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>
2005-07-14 by sasami@hotkey.net.au
>Sorry Ken, but this was not my question. I know how a Ring Mod works.Refer to the comment on the ring mod loading the output of the VCO. Add a
>Of course the Ring Mod changes the incoming Waveform. But if I split
>up the incoming Sine from the Oakley Sine BEFORE I go into the
>RingMod and listen to the Sine (still directly from the VCO, not from
>the Ringmod), its changed.
>_______________________________________________________________________
>
>
>--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@h... wrote:
>> Signal into one end, output from the other end. Carrier (modulating
>signal)
>> into the center terminals. The ring mod will load the output of
>what you
>> connect it to, so if the output is very weak, it will drop in
>volume. If you
>> feed sine waves of the same frequency into both one end, and the
>center, you
>> will get a sine wave of twice the frequency out.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> >When I patch a Sine from any of my Oakley VCO's into any of the
>Real
>> >Ring Inputs (or out) and hear at the same time the Sine (with a
>> >Multiple), the Sine is completely changed. I cannot hear the
>Ringmod-
>> >Outs at the same time as the unmodulated Sine from the VCO,
>because
>> >there is no Sine anymore. Its like the Real-Ring had some effect
>> >backwards to the VCO electronic.
>> >
>> >I don't get it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>> >
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>_
>> Ken Stone sasami@h... or sasami@c...
>> Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
>> Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies
><http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>
>
>
>
>
>The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
2005-07-14 by waveform100
--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@h... wrote:
> >Sorry Ken, but this was not my question. I know how a Ring Mod
works.
> >Of course the Ring Mod changes the incoming Waveform. But if I
split
> >up the incoming Sine from the Oakley Sine BEFORE I go into the
> >RingMod and listen to the Sine (still directly from the VCO, not
from
> >the Ringmod), its changed.
>
> Refer to the comment on the ring mod loading the output of the VCO.
Add a
> buffer stage between them.
>
> Ken
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, sasami@h... wrote:
> >> Signal into one end, output from the other end. Carrier
(modulating
> >signal)
> >> into the center terminals. The ring mod will load the output of
> >what you
> >> connect it to, so if the output is very weak, it will drop in
> >volume. If you
> >> feed sine waves of the same frequency into both one end, and the
> >center, you
> >> will get a sine wave of twice the frequency out.
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> >When I patch a Sine from any of my Oakley VCO's into any of the
> >Real
> >> >Ring Inputs (or out) and hear at the same time the Sine (with a
> >> >Multiple), the Sine is completely changed. I cannot hear the
> >Ringmod-
> >> >Outs at the same time as the unmodulated Sine from the VCO,
> >because
> >> >there is no Sine anymore. Its like the Real-Ring had some
effect
> >> >backwards to the VCO electronic.
> >> >
> >> >I don't get it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> >> >
> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
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> >> Ken Stone sasami@h... or sasami@c...
> >> Modular Synth PCBs for sale
<http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
> >> Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies
> ><http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >The CGS Modular Synth home page: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Ken Stone sasami@h... or sasami@c...
> Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
> Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies
<http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>