Cgs synth

>has anyone built the
>Infinite Melody module
>and driven a vco or chime voice?
>
>I still love eno's discreeet music and would guess
>this would provide a constant chnagin source of
>tones for ....listening or not.
>
>put IM and vco or two and a chime board in a box, throw
>in a pedal reverb or delay and you have a live art gallery music.
>
>just a thought -
>Jeff
>

--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@n...> wrote:
> Indeed I have built an Infinite Melody. It is in a custom
Schaeffer panel
> in my MOTM system. I enhanced the module by adding an internal
fast clock
> and a white noise source. I have the REV0 board and it works
fine. It
> took me a while to understand what happens when you switch between
1/f and
> random. Which is that the Advance clock causes output transitions
on the
> opposite phase. There are also 1/2 as many transitions in 1/f
mode, but
> that is OK. I have driven three VCOs off the three fixed output
and the
> effect is quite pleasing. I have two Wiard/Blacet Miniwaves, which
I
> sometimes use for scale quantizing the outputs of the Infinite
Melody.
>
> I am striving toward something like Brian Eno's "auto poetic" type
of
> music. I don't use any sort on input device other than the pots
and
> switches on my synth. The Infinite Melody fits in well with this
approach.
>
> If you are building a special box with the IM module, consider
including
> Ken's Diatonic Converter.
>
> -Richard Brewster
>
> At 05:15 AM 9/23/03 +0000, spgjmf wrote:
> >has anyone built the
> >Infinite Melody module
> >and driven a vco or chime voice?
> >
> >I still love eno's discreeet music and would guess
> >this would provide a constant chnagin source of
> >tones for ....listening or not.
> >
> >put IM and vco or two and a chime board in a box, throw
> >in a pedal reverb or delay and you have a live art gallery music.
> >
> >just a thought -
> >Jeff
> >

> well that is very cool.
> any chance you might be able to send a pic to me of the panel.
> just want to
> see the gear :-)
>
> I have been thinking for many yesrs about "environmental "

> taking stimulus from the environment ( temp, humitity, wind,
> light...) and creating "music" from these. sound like the
> IM and the diatonic conv must be a useful thing to that effect.
>
> thanks for the reply
>
> JEff
>
>
> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster

> > Indeed I have built an Infinite Melody. It is in a custom
> Schaeffer panel
> > in my MOTM system. I enhanced the module by adding an

> fast clock
> > and a white noise source. I have the REV0 board and it

> fine. It
> > took me a while to understand what happens when you

> 1/f and
> > random. Which is that the Advance clock causes output

> on the
> > opposite phase. There are also 1/2 as many transitions in

> mode, but
> > that is OK. I have driven three VCOs off the three fixed output
> and the
> > effect is quite pleasing. I have two Wiard/Blacet Miniwaves,

> I
> > sometimes use for scale quantizing the outputs of the Infinite
> Melody.
> >
> > I am striving toward something like Brian Eno's "auto poetic"

> of
> > music. I don't use any sort on input device other than the

> and
> > switches on my synth. The Infinite Melody fits in well with this
> approach.
> >
> > If you are building a special box with the IM module, consider
> including
> > Ken's Diatonic Converter.
> >
> > -Richard Brewster
> >
> > At 05:15 AM 9/23/03 +0000, spgjmf wrote:
> > >has anyone built the
> > >Infinite Melody module
> > >and driven a vco or chime voice?
> > >
> > >I still love eno's discreeet music and would guess
> > >this would provide a constant chnagin source of
> > >tones for ....listening or not.
> > >
> > >put IM and vco or two and a chime board in a box, throw
> > >in a pedal reverb or delay and you have a live art gallery

> > >
> > >just a thought -
> > >Jeff
> > >

>All sounds fine to me, but:
> if you want to use environment as a source of control, I think you
>should use sensors to get that voltages and control whatever
>generators, processors... the nature would be your 1/f generator
>in that case. If the CVs you extract are interesting enough (and to
>what you apply them) you may want to keep them as expressive
>as they are instead of dissolve that data in to a random system...
>Just my thoughts about it...
>Keep inspired!
>Fernando
>
>--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "spgjmf" <spgjmf@h...>
>wrote:
> > well that is very cool.
> > any chance you might be able to send a pic to me of the panel.
> > just want to
> > see the gear :-)
> >
> > I have been thinking for many yesrs about "environmental "
>music.
> > taking stimulus from the environment ( temp, humitity, wind,
> > light...) and creating "music" from these. sound like the
> > IM and the diatonic conv must be a useful thing to that effect.
> >
> > thanks for the reply
> >
> > JEff
> >
> >
> > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster
><pugix@n...> wrote:
> > > Indeed I have built an Infinite Melody. It is in a custom
> > Schaeffer panel
> > > in my MOTM system. I enhanced the module by adding an
>internal
> > fast clock
> > > and a white noise source. I have the REV0 board and it
>works
> > fine. It
> > > took me a while to understand what happens when you
>switch between
> > 1/f and
> > > random. Which is that the Advance clock causes output
>transitions
> > on the
> > > opposite phase. There are also 1/2 as many transitions in
>1/f
> > mode, but
> > > that is OK. I have driven three VCOs off the three fixed output
> > and the
> > > effect is quite pleasing. I have two Wiard/Blacet Miniwaves,
>which
> > I
> > > sometimes use for scale quantizing the outputs of the Infinite
> > Melody.
> > >
> > > I am striving toward something like Brian Eno's "auto poetic"
>type
> > of
> > > music. I don't use any sort on input device other than the
>pots
> > and
> > > switches on my synth. The Infinite Melody fits in well with this
> > approach.
> > >
> > > If you are building a special box with the IM module, consider
> > including
> > > Ken's Diatonic Converter.
> > >
> > > -Richard Brewster
> > >
> > > At 05:15 AM 9/23/03 +0000, spgjmf wrote:
> > > >has anyone built the
> > > >Infinite Melody module
> > > >and driven a vco or chime voice?
> > > >
> > > >I still love eno's discreeet music and would guess
> > > >this would provide a constant chnagin source of
> > > >tones for ....listening or not.
> > > >
> > > >put IM and vco or two and a chime board in a box, throw
> > > >in a pedal reverb or delay and you have a live art gallery
>music.
> > > >
> > > >just a thought -
> > > >Jeff
> > > >
>
>
>
>See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home page:
>Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
>Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/
>To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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>
>
>
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--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "Fernando" <fdi@r...> wrote:
> All sounds fine to me, but:
> if you want to use environment as a source of control, I think you
> should use sensors to get that voltages and control whatever
> generators, processors... the nature would be your 1/f generator
> in that case. If the CVs you extract are interesting enough (and to
> what you apply them) you may want to keep them as expressive
> as they are instead of dissolve that data in to a random system...
> Just my thoughts about it...
> Keep inspired!
> Fernando
>
> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "spgjmf" <spgjmf@h...>
> wrote:
> > well that is very cool.
> > any chance you might be able to send a pic to me of the panel.
> > just want to
> > see the gear :-)
> >
> > I have been thinking for many yesrs about "environmental "
> music.
> > taking stimulus from the environment ( temp, humitity, wind,
> > light...) and creating "music" from these. sound like the
> > IM and the diatonic conv must be a useful thing to that effect.
> >
> > thanks for the reply
> >
> > JEff
> >
> >
> > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster
> <pugix@n...> wrote:
> > > Indeed I have built an Infinite Melody. It is in a custom
> > Schaeffer panel
> > > in my MOTM system. I enhanced the module by adding an
> internal
> > fast clock
> > > and a white noise source. I have the REV0 board and it
> works
> > fine. It
> > > took me a while to understand what happens when you
> switch between
> > 1/f and
> > > random. Which is that the Advance clock causes output
> transitions
> > on the
> > > opposite phase. There are also 1/2 as many transitions in
> 1/f
> > mode, but
> > > that is OK. I have driven three VCOs off the three fixed
output
> > and the
> > > effect is quite pleasing. I have two Wiard/Blacet Miniwaves,
> which
> > I
> > > sometimes use for scale quantizing the outputs of the Infinite
> > Melody.
> > >
> > > I am striving toward something like Brian Eno's "auto poetic"
> type
> > of
> > > music. I don't use any sort on input device other than the
> pots
> > and
> > > switches on my synth. The Infinite Melody fits in well with
this
> > approach.
> > >
> > > If you are building a special box with the IM module, consider
> > including
> > > Ken's Diatonic Converter.
> > >
> > > -Richard Brewster
> > >
> > > At 05:15 AM 9/23/03 +0000, spgjmf wrote:
> > > >has anyone built the
> > > >Infinite Melody module
> > > >and driven a vco or chime voice?
> > > >
> > > >I still love eno's discreeet music and would guess
> > > >this would provide a constant chnagin source of
> > > >tones for ....listening or not.
> > > >
> > > >put IM and vco or two and a chime board in a box, throw
> > > >in a pedal reverb or delay and you have a live art gallery
> music.
> > > >
> > > >just a thought -
> > > >Jeff
> > > >

--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@n...> wrote:
> You can find lots of remote weather stations for sale. A weather
station
> could probably be adapted for control use. Interesting idea.
>
> The Schaeffer panel file for my Infinite Melody is available on the
> motmpanels group files. Here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/motmpanels/files/Richard%20Brewster%
20Designs/
>
> I don't have a photo of the module but I could take one.
>
> -Richard Brewster
>
> At 10:57 PM 9/27/03 +0000, Fernando wrote:
> >All sounds fine to me, but:
> > if you want to use environment as a source of control, I think
you
> >should use sensors to get that voltages and control whatever
> >generators, processors... the nature would be your 1/f generator
> >in that case. If the CVs you extract are interesting enough (and to
> >what you apply them) you may want to keep them as expressive
> >as they are instead of dissolve that data in to a random system...
> >Just my thoughts about it...
> >Keep inspired!
> >Fernando
> >
> >--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "spgjmf" <spgjmf@h...>
> >wrote:
> > > well that is very cool.
> > > any chance you might be able to send a pic to me of the panel.
> > > just want to
> > > see the gear :-)
> > >
> > > I have been thinking for many yesrs about "environmental "
> >music.
> > > taking stimulus from the environment ( temp, humitity, wind,
> > > light...) and creating "music" from these. sound like the
> > > IM and the diatonic conv must be a useful thing to that effect.
> > >
> > > thanks for the reply
> > >
> > > JEff
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster
> ><pugix@n...> wrote:
> > > > Indeed I have built an Infinite Melody. It is in a custom
> > > Schaeffer panel
> > > > in my MOTM system. I enhanced the module by adding an
> >internal
> > > fast clock
> > > > and a white noise source. I have the REV0 board and it
> >works
> > > fine. It
> > > > took me a while to understand what happens when you
> >switch between
> > > 1/f and
> > > > random. Which is that the Advance clock causes output
> >transitions
> > > on the
> > > > opposite phase. There are also 1/2 as many transitions in
> >1/f
> > > mode, but
> > > > that is OK. I have driven three VCOs off the three fixed
output
> > > and the
> > > > effect is quite pleasing. I have two Wiard/Blacet Miniwaves,
> >which
> > > I
> > > > sometimes use for scale quantizing the outputs of the Infinite
> > > Melody.
> > > >
> > > > I am striving toward something like Brian Eno's "auto poetic"
> >type
> > > of
> > > > music. I don't use any sort on input device other than the
> >pots
> > > and
> > > > switches on my synth. The Infinite Melody fits in well with
this
> > > approach.
> > > >
> > > > If you are building a special box with the IM module, consider
> > > including
> > > > Ken's Diatonic Converter.
> > > >
> > > > -Richard Brewster
> > > >
> > > > At 05:15 AM 9/23/03 +0000, spgjmf wrote:
> > > > >has anyone built the
> > > > >Infinite Melody module
> > > > >and driven a vco or chime voice?
> > > > >
> > > > >I still love eno's discreeet music and would guess
> > > > >this would provide a constant chnagin source of
> > > > >tones for ....listening or not.
> > > > >
> > > > >put IM and vco or two and a chime board in a box, throw
> > > > >in a pedal reverb or delay and you have a live art gallery
> >music.
> > > > >
> > > > >just a thought -
> > > > >Jeff
> > > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home page:
> >Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> >Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/
> >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> >cgs_synth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

>
> hey weather station, thats a good idea...
> I was thinking of all these little senors to build, but maybe
> a weather station can be adapted....
>
> hmmm
>
> thanks for the insight!
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster

> > You can find lots of remote weather stations for sale. A

> station
> > could probably be adapted for control use. Interesting idea.
> >
> > The Schaeffer panel file for my Infinite Melody is available on

> > motmpanels group files. Here:
> >
> >

> 20Designs/
> >
> > I don't have a photo of the module but I could take one.
> >
> > -Richard Brewster
> >
> > At 10:57 PM 9/27/03 +0000, Fernando wrote:
> > >All sounds fine to me, but:
> > > if you want to use environment as a source of control, I

> you
> > >should use sensors to get that voltages and control

> > >generators, processors... the nature would be your 1/f

> > >in that case. If the CVs you extract are interesting enough

> > >what you apply them) you may want to keep them as

> > >as they are instead of dissolve that data in to a random

> > >Just my thoughts about it...
> > >Keep inspired!
> > >Fernando
> > >
> > >--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, "spgjmf"

> > >wrote:
> > > > well that is very cool.
> > > > any chance you might be able to send a pic to me of the

> > > > just want to
> > > > see the gear :-)
> > > >
> > > > I have been thinking for many yesrs about "environmental

> > >music.
> > > > taking stimulus from the environment ( temp, humitity,

> > > > light...) and creating "music" from these. sound like the
> > > > IM and the diatonic conv must be a useful thing to that

> > > >
> > > > thanks for the reply
> > > >
> > > > JEff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster
> > ><pugix@n...> wrote:
> > > > > Indeed I have built an Infinite Melody. It is in a custom
> > > > Schaeffer panel
> > > > > in my MOTM system. I enhanced the module by adding

> > >internal
> > > > fast clock
> > > > > and a white noise source. I have the REV0 board and it
> > >works
> > > > fine. It
> > > > > took me a while to understand what happens when you
> > >switch between
> > > > 1/f and
> > > > > random. Which is that the Advance clock causes output
> > >transitions
> > > > on the
> > > > > opposite phase. There are also 1/2 as many

> > >1/f
> > > > mode, but
> > > > > that is OK. I have driven three VCOs off the three fixed
> output
> > > > and the
> > > > > effect is quite pleasing. I have two Wiard/Blacet

> > >which
> > > > I
> > > > > sometimes use for scale quantizing the outputs of the

> > > > Melody.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am striving toward something like Brian Eno's "auto

> > >type
> > > > of
> > > > > music. I don't use any sort on input device other than

> > >pots
> > > > and
> > > > > switches on my synth. The Infinite Melody fits in well

> this
> > > > approach.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are building a special box with the IM module,

> > > > including
> > > > > Ken's Diatonic Converter.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Richard Brewster
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:15 AM 9/23/03 +0000, spgjmf wrote:
> > > > > >has anyone built the
> > > > > >Infinite Melody module
> > > > > >and driven a vco or chime voice?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I still love eno's discreeet music and would guess
> > > > > >this would provide a constant chnagin source of
> > > > > >tones for ....listening or not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >put IM and vco or two and a chime board in a box,

> > > > > >in a pedal reverb or delay and you have a live art

> > >music.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >just a thought -
> > > > > >Jeff
> > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >See the following URLS for the CGS Modular Synth home

> > >Main: http://www.cgs.synth.net/
> > >Secondary: http://otherunicorn.0catch.com/synth/
> > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > >cgs_synth-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

>I bought some flex sensors (it's resistance varies with flexion) to
>use with dancers or on my body and was thinking in use them
>on some tree branches on a windy day.
>Think that just using some photocells in an area with an
>interesting dynamic ilumination (the moving shades of tree
>leaves) gives you lots of nice data. There are also special 3 legs
>chips that have the photocell + something else and give you
>directly a proportional voltage.
>I think electrt mics exposed to wind will give you some data too,
>at least with a mild wind.
>I think humidity sensors are very cheap too.
>
>Just some of my tricks
>=:)
>
>fernando

--- In cgs_synth@yahoogroups.com, Richard Brewster <pugix@n...> wrote:
> This is certainly an interesting thread. I'm wondering, though,
about the
> mathematics of wind in trees, stock market fluctuations, body
movements,
> etc., and whether in the end the sort of CV patterns that could be
derived
> from these sources would be distinguishable from the 1/f patterns
> obtainable from the Infinite Melody module. I am not sufficiently
versed
> in math to know. I do suppose that such odd sources of CV might be
useful
> for conceptual art forms. But isn't the resulting structure of the
music
> produced going to depend as much -- or more -- on how you patch up
the
> controls, as whether the origin is an electrical random source
(which is
> natural, too) or some other physical phenomenon?
>
> I have had thoughts along these lines before, and looked into bio-
feedback
> equipment as a possible means of controlling my synthesizer. At
least with
> bio-feedback I would be in the loop.
>
> -Richard Brewster
>
> At 10:40 PM 10/1/03 +0000, Fernando wrote:
> >I bought some flex sensors (it's resistance varies with flexion) to
> >use with dancers or on my body and was thinking in use them
> >on some tree branches on a windy day.
> >Think that just using some photocells in an area with an
> >interesting dynamic ilumination (the moving shades of tree
> >leaves) gives you lots of nice data. There are also special 3 legs
> >chips that have the photocell + something else and give you
> >directly a proportional voltage.
> >I think electrt mics exposed to wind will give you some data too,
> >at least with a mild wind.
> >I think humidity sensors are very cheap too.
> >
> >Just some of my tricks
> >=:)
> >
> >fernando

> This is certainly an interesting thread. I'm wondering, though,

> mathematics of wind in trees, stock market fluctuations, body

> etc., and whether in the end the sort of CV patterns that could

> from these sources would be distinguishable from the 1/f

> obtainable from the Infinite Melody module. I am not

> in math to know. I do suppose that such odd sources of CV

> for conceptual art forms. But isn't the resulting structure of the

> produced going to depend as much -- or more -- on how you

> controls, as whether the origin is an electrical random source

> natural, too) or some other physical phenomenon?
>
> I have had thoughts along these lines before, and looked into

> equipment as a possible means of controlling my synthesizer.

> bio-feedback I would be in the loop.
>
> -Richard Brewster
>
> At 10:40 PM 10/1/03 +0000, Fernando wrote:
> >I bought some flex sensors (it's resistance varies with flexion)

> >use with dancers or on my body and was thinking in use

> >on some tree branches on a windy day.
> >Think that just using some photocells in an area with an
> >interesting dynamic ilumination (the moving shades of tree
> >leaves) gives you lots of nice data. There are also special 3

> >chips that have the photocell + something else and give you
> >directly a proportional voltage.
> >I think electrt mics exposed to wind will give you some data

> >at least with a mild wind.
> >I think humidity sensors are very cheap too.
> >
> >Just some of my tricks
> >=:)
> >
> >fernando