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membrane panel death

membrane panel death

2006-04-29 by teknowh0re_1999

First of all, let me apologize for my Yahoo username. I picked this 
name when I was 17 or so in 1999.

I've owned my Polaris for about a year now, and it has the infamous 
membrane button death. I've opened it up a time or two but not gotten 
too adventerous until tonight. Long story short, the jumpers 
connecting the PCB to the membrane panel are pretty much dead (deader 
than they were). But when I say "jumper" I mean "leads in a thin 
plastic sheet." 

Can I simply solder in some jumper cable or wires from the PCB to the 
membrane panel or do I need to think about using this machine for 
spare parts?

I may be able to articulate this better with photographs, which may 
have to wait until someone posts a reply.



Thanks,

AAB

Re: [chromapolaris] membrane panel death

2006-05-07 by David Clarke

From: "teknowh0re_1999"
...
> I've owned my Polaris for about a year now, and it has the infamous
> membrane button death. I've opened it up a time or two but not gotten
> too adventerous until tonight. Long story short, the jumpers
> connecting the PCB to the membrane panel are pretty much dead (deader
> than they were). But when I say "jumper" I mean "leads in a thin
> plastic sheet."
>
> Can I simply solder in some jumper cable or wires from the PCB to the
> membrane panel or do I need to think about using this machine for
> spare parts?

If the problem is with one or more of the plastic strips that come from the 
front panel and slide into connectors on the circuit boards, then soldering 
will be tough.

The plastic/mylar normally has a conductive coating on it, and that's what 
transfers the signals to the circuits.

The most common polaris sickness will be a cracking of that plastic - and as 
the plastic cracks, the signal traces are broken.  In many cases, the 
cracking occurs at the end of the connections - and so you can get lucky by 
trimming off the bad end with a pair of scissors.

If the crack/rip/tear is too far away from the connectors to make cutting 
likely, then there are a couple alternatives:

1) Try to physically repair the crack by gluing/attaching another piece of 
plastic to the broken piece.  This will not necessarily repair the 
electrical conductivity, but it will be the mechanical support for the 
connection.  Once mechanically secure, the trace itself can sometimes be 
repaired via a 'conductive ink pen'.  They sell these at electronics stores 
(and on-line), and they're specifically made for this sort of a task.  You'd 
hold them like a pen, and then 'draw' the connections you need.  Once dry, 
the connections can pass the signals you need.

2) A slight variation of #1 (and this is if you're desperate), would be to 
try to 'stitch' a fine wire back and forth between the broken track.  (Think 
of it just like a needle and thread - but instead of holding material 
together, you'd be holding the traces together).  Certainly not ideal, and 
depending how brittle the connector is, may cause more damage than it fixes.

You can have even more variations, with wires being fished up between the 
layers of the front panel - but these are really last-gasp sort of 
solutions.

3) If all else fails, then you'd be looking to forego the use of the actual 
membrane switches, and to add in your own switches (which you'd wire in with 
real-wire instead of the plastic).  These switches could be mounted right 
on/through the original panel, or they could go in an external box.

In the short-term, it is the case that the parameters can be controlled from 
MIDI - so an external MIDI knob-box (or access from a sequencing program) 
could be used.

Re: membrane panel death

2006-05-08 by teknowh0re_1999

Thanks. I am unable to control anything bute note changes and 
transpose functions via MIDI, which is why I was buggering around 
inside in the first place. I would have no issue if I could access 
all the functions, but for some reason I am unable to do so when I 
attempt control from another synth.

I have a fairly lengthy document regarding cc's and what not for this 
machine, but to be honest I'm not familiar with sending these types 
of messages from a software controller.

--- In chromapolaris@yahoogroups.com, David Clarke <ac151@...> wrote:
>
> From: "teknowh0re_1999"
> ...
> > I've owned my Polaris for about a year now, and it has the 
infamous
> > membrane button death. I've opened it up a time or two but not 
gotten
> > too adventerous until tonight. Long story short, the jumpers
> > connecting the PCB to the membrane panel are pretty much dead 
(deader
> > than they were). But when I say "jumper" I mean "leads in a thin
> > plastic sheet."
> >
> > Can I simply solder in some jumper cable or wires from the PCB to 
the
> > membrane panel or do I need to think about using this machine for
> > spare parts?
> 
> If the problem is with one or more of the plastic strips that come 
from the 
> front panel and slide into connectors on the circuit boards, then 
soldering 
> will be tough.
> 
> The plastic/mylar normally has a conductive coating on it, and 
that's what 
> transfers the signals to the circuits.
> 
> The most common polaris sickness will be a cracking of that 
plastic - and as 
> the plastic cracks, the signal traces are broken.  In many cases, 
the 
> cracking occurs at the end of the connections - and so you can get 
lucky by 
> trimming off the bad end with a pair of scissors.
> 
> If the crack/rip/tear is too far away from the connectors to make 
cutting 
> likely, then there are a couple alternatives:
> 
> 1) Try to physically repair the crack by gluing/attaching another 
piece of 
> plastic to the broken piece.  This will not necessarily repair the 
> electrical conductivity, but it will be the mechanical support for 
the 
> connection.  Once mechanically secure, the trace itself can 
sometimes be 
> repaired via a 'conductive ink pen'.  They sell these at 
electronics stores 
> (and on-line), and they're specifically made for this sort of a 
task.  You'd 
> hold them like a pen, and then 'draw' the connections you need.  
Once dry, 
> the connections can pass the signals you need.
> 
> 2) A slight variation of #1 (and this is if you're desperate), 
would be to 
> try to 'stitch' a fine wire back and forth between the broken 
track.  (Think 
> of it just like a needle and thread - but instead of holding 
material 
> together, you'd be holding the traces together).  Certainly not 
ideal, and 
> depending how brittle the connector is, may cause more damage than 
it fixes.
> 
> You can have even more variations, with wires being fished up 
between the 
> layers of the front panel - but these are really last-gasp sort of 
> solutions.
> 
> 3) If all else fails, then you'd be looking to forego the use of 
the actual 
> membrane switches, and to add in your own switches (which you'd 
wire in with 
> real-wire instead of the plastic).  These switches could be mounted 
right 
> on/through the original panel, or they could go in an external box.
> 
> In the short-term, it is the case that the parameters can be 
controlled from 
> MIDI - so an external MIDI knob-box (or access from a sequencing 
program) 
> could be used.
>

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