Crumar Musical Instruments User Group. group photo

Yahoo Groups archive

Crumar Musical Instruments User Group.

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 23:17 UTC

Message

Re: [crumar] Re: Editing Bit-01 with SYSEX strings

2010-07-13 by Michael Ashton

Hello --

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:52 PM, a33e <dr.3.tri@...> wrote:

Thanks for quick answer.

How to trigger sound out of Bit01 at same time when editing it from BitControl still puzzles me..

What is BitControl using as MIDI IN device? (It's output can be selected from its GUI, that's clear).


No MIDI input just now. It's control only.

MIDI control is on the wish list definitely.

You say that "Also, I'm not sure that note messages are passed through the plugin at all, at the moment.";

i believe that's the feature what's needed if used it way i was trying.

Yes.

As example when using MOTU Unisyn i make pattern in VST host (BUZZ) and choose from its tracker plugins MIDI out lets say 'MIDI Yoke driver 1' and configure Unisyn to take same MIDI Yoke driver 1 driver as input.

Then from Unisyn i select "Echo" so that it forwards it's input to output and combines edit's made on it to same output.
http://a.33e.biz/ofiles/unisyn_echo-on-play-channel.PNG

AFAIK it's not possible to use two programs using same MIDI device for output.

On the Mac it's possible, and with some Windows drivers it's possible. I don't think it's possible using the stock Windows MIDI driver (which is total crap, by the way, especially for sysex).

I am not moving away from using BUZZ as host as i know it's sequencer thoroughly, it's like tattoeed to my brains.. :D

There's no way I would suggest getting a different host to fix this!!


But i'm curious, how exactly you use it for editing sounds?

Mostly in Live, on OS X. The Mac always lets you point two programs at the same MIDI port, AFAIK. Works for me anyway.

Clearly this is something I need to fix though.

--mpa


.33



> > Another question -how would you feed notes when editing Bit01 with that VST
> > plugin?
> > I use BUZZ as main sequencer and added pattern + track for that VST editor
> > also, then added some notes but had no results..
> >
> Many VST hosts have in the past not handled MIDI plugins very well. I think
> this is changing now, but that's why BitControl opens its own private MIDI
> port, instead of trying to send MIDI through the host. Also, I9;m not sure
> that note messages are passed through the plugin at all, at the moment.
>
> One strategy is to put the plugin on a different track, where there aren't
> notes, and use that to configure the Bit. Then you can send notes to the Bit
> from other tracks. Of course this may not work in all hosts -- in particular
> some Windows MIDI drivers may not do well with this arrangement.
>
> --mpa
>




--
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.