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Hi.

I'm new owner of 01 and learning basics of this machine now. Does anyone have experience about editing this with some hardware knobbox using SYSEX strings?
I have Bitstream 3X controller which i want to use.. .

I found out that there is few editors for this, Sound Quest, Sound Diver, BitEdit1_2 and BitControl.

In BitControls userguide it was said:

"BitControl transmits patch parameters in a
somewhat unusual fashion. The Bit has a
relatively simple MIDI implementation, and
understands only messages containing entire
programs; it does not provide MIDI messages
for altering one single parameter. Therefore,
each time you edit a parameter, BitControl
transmits the entire program to the Bit,
followed by a program change.
Because of this system, each time you make a
change to a patch, any playing notes are
stopped, even if you are holding down a key.
You cannot, for instance, hold down a note and
sweep the filter, and hear the changes in real
time."


Is this the absolute truth? So there is no hope to control it directly? And even if i would get it working from Bitstream3X it would still have same nature with pauses after every knob turn or slider move?

Another question -how would you feed notes when editing Bit01 with that VST plugin?
I use BUZZ as main sequencer and added pattern + track for that VST editor also, then added some notes but had no results..

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Thanks for quick answer.

How to trigger sound out of Bit01 at same time when editing it from BitControl still puzzles me..

What is BitControl using as MIDI IN device? (It's output can be selected from its GUI, that's clear).

You say that "Also, I'm not sure that note messages are passed through the plugin at all, at the moment." 

i believe that's the feature what's needed if used it way i was trying.
As example when using MOTU Unisyn i make pattern in VST host (BUZZ) and choose from its tracker plugins MIDI out lets say 'MIDI Yoke driver 1' and configure Unisyn to take same MIDI Yoke driver 1 driver as input.

Then from Unisyn i select "Echo" so that it forwards it's input to output and combines edit's made on it to same output. 
http://a.33e.biz/ofiles/unisyn_echo-on-play-channel.PNG

AFAIK it's not possible to use two programs using same MIDI device for output.
I am not moving away from using BUZZ as host as i know it's sequencer thoroughly, it's like tattoeed to my brains.. :D

But i'm curious, how exactly you use it for editing sounds?

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> > Another question -how would you feed notes when editing Bit01 with that VST
> > plugin?
> > I use BUZZ as main sequencer and added pattern + track for that VST editor
> > also, then added some notes but had no results..
> >
> Many VST hosts have in the past not handled MIDI plugins very well. I think
> this is changing now, but that's why BitControl opens its own private MIDI
> port, instead of trying to send MIDI through the host. Also, I'm not sure
> that note messages are passed through the plugin at all, at the moment.
> 
> One strategy is to put the plugin on a different track, where there aren't
> notes, and use that to configure the Bit. Then you can send notes to the Bit
> from other tracks. Of course this may not work in all hosts -- in particular
> some Windows MIDI drivers may not do well with this arrangement.
> 
> --mpa
>

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