And thank you for your great advice. I already had mine offered for sale with some defects. But I just couldn't leave the thing alone. I had a nasty hiss coming out of it and occasionally a voice 3 and 4 far too loud. I checked the datasheet of the 3328's and found some strange voltages on the 4th 3328 which I could trace down to a resistor near the LM13700N that needed resoldering. Voice 3 and 4 back were okay now. In a less professional way (touching everything possible point) I was able to find another point to be resoldered and now It's fully functional. INo more hisses and crackles. Not even one component replaced! --- In crumar@yahoogroups.com, "neurokrash" <spamkiller@...> wrote: > > Yeehaw! > > The CEM3328 Bit is now fully repaired. > > This one had some bad CEM3328 filters, bad TL082 op-amps, and then was > mostly functional aside from being out of tune and having one voice > still out. I decided that the problem was probably not from the lower > filter board, since switching things around down there didn't change > the bad voice, so I looked at the upper board. There I found another > row of TL082 op-amps, so I socketed these and began moving the chips > around. The bad voice followed a chip, so I replaced it and presto! > > It is worth mentioning that some of the TL082s were running pretty hot > - about 110-120 degrees f. One of them was over 220 degrees! I > swapped these out until I got a full set that were 100 degrees or > below. It's 82 here, so that seemed acceptable ;) > > I tuned the wacky voice by adjusting one of the potentiometers on the > left side of the upper board, with the detune slider in the middle. > Seems okay now, but I'm not sure why it went so far out of tune(?) > > Here are some of the things that I learned while repairing the Bits: > > 1) Your finger is not a good diagnostic instrument. I found this out > by trying to check the temperature of an IC that was running at around > 220 degrees. Bad idea, get a temperature probe for your meter > instead. I got a meter with the temperature probe for $30 on ebay. I > would guess that you can get a probe that plugs into any meter for > less. If you really have money, Fluke makes a nifty device that uses > a laser and infrared, so you point a laser pointer at the chip, and it > tells you how hot it is! I didn't spring for this, but may in the > future. In any case, finding chips that are running inexplicably hot > is very helpful. > > 2) Print out the datasheets for ICs that you plan to test. It > definitely helps to know where to look for supply voltage, ground, > output voltage, etc... Everyone's help from here in the forum was > invaluable in getting me started. > > 3) Check the ribbon cables. Some of the cables do not have connectors > on both ends, but instead are soldered to the board. Many of these > failed while disassembling and assembling the keyboard. They are more > than 20 years old, so I can't complain - but if you take the keyboard > apart, then put it back together and things get worse, be sure to > check these since the little exposed wire likes to break. > > 4) If you don't know what to test (like me) socket the board ;) I > didn't know how to read the schematics well enough to clearly trace > the circuit path for each voice, so I desoldered all of the ICs on the > board, put in sockets, then started to switch the ICs around and/or > leave some out (with the power turned off!). I could then test each > voice individually and figure out which chips controlled which voices. > That made it possible to narrow down the problems, and to find the > bad parts. > > Thanks to everyone for all the help! >
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Re: Bit One #2 Repaired!
2006-08-29 by monodist
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