----- Original Message -----From: CDTobie@...Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:41 AMSubject: Re: [colorvision_group] Skin Tones Help...
In a message dated 1/16/07 11:42:16 PM, doug@... writes:
I got a new set of inks with my InkRepublic CIS and I am have a hard time dialing in the profile w/ PFPro 2.0... all my skin tones come out too hot/red ... the highlight areas seem to appear as if the person is sunburnt... what should I be adjusting in the software to compensate? Is this enough info to go on ?
The profiling process should be taking care of this already. Are you printing the standard test image directly from the Print Preview screen of PFP2? Do the skintones on that image, printed that way, show these issues? Do they show on screen in that step as well, when you check Soft Proof?
C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@colorvision.com
www.colorvision.com
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Re: [colorvision_group] Skin Tones Help...
2007-01-17 by Doug Lenos
Thanks for reply - I sent David M the measurements
late last night to look at- along w/ an image.
Previously, I had used/profiled Media Street inks
for the R1800 and had them pretty much spot on. Their CIS though gave me too
many issues - when my R1800 developed a hardward tracking problem Epson
exchanged it out - for the new / replacement R1800 I bought InkRepublics CIS and
inks - these - while working perfectly (no clogs, CIS issues) are not profiling
well at all.
I did a 255 patch profile (three times) and results
are the same every time - the skins tones come out too orange/red and areas like
the cheeks and upper fore arms - softproof in qimage and ps cs2 both look great
- it is only in the print. All other colors look fine - red in uniforms/border
many be slightly over sat'd but actually look very good - proportionally they
should be way blown out (over sat'd) as the skin tones are.
Here is one image http://lenos.us/dpr/example1.jpg
http://lenos.us/dpr/example2.jpg is
marked up - the red is where the skins look over sat'd / sunburned - the green
areas come out too 'bright' / hot - this is interesting - onscreen it looks fine
but the slight hotspot on the forehead (green) looks more pronounced in print -
like a higher contrast adj has been applied.
At David req I reduced the sat in the PFPro 2.0
software to -8 and Cyan/Red a -4 - that solved the sunburn but desat'd the rest
of image (basketball/indian) etc just enough to not be (to my eye comparing
to prev prints) acceptable ... I made it -6, -2 and I can get by with that
for this team - the sunburn is subtle but there (they will never notice it) -
but I really need it resolved - or go back to the MS inks.
Printing the test print does show the problem on
the kid on the far right and slightly on the 2nd from left - kids 2 and 4..
though not as pronounced... due to their light/soft skin tones I'm
sure.
One last item I should mention... I updated the
Epson R1800 driver to this last week... I did go back to the old driver and that
did not resolve it but I thought I would mention it.