Datacolor User to User Support Group.

>>> As for nonp-color managed apps; as long as you calibrate to 
2.2/6500,
> you'll get about as good color from them as is possible. But you'll
> only get the profile in addition to the calibration in color aware 
apps
> like Photoshop.

>Not sure what you mean.  Are you saying I won't get the calibration in 
the other apps

>but only photoshop?

No, you'll get the video calibration in all apps; its just the profile 
definition you won't get in anthing but Photoshop and other color 
managed apps...


>Let's say I don't use photoshop or do any kind of photo editing

> but I want my monitor to show the

>correct colors and 2.2/6500 and D50 doesn't work.  I thought a 
hardware calibrator such

>as the Spyder would correct it.

It will neutralize your grays, and make your midtones midtone, but it 
can't fix the definitions of the color primaries, as that is the job of 
the profile. That was one of the things that Windows hoped to fix with 
Vista, but didn't manage to include: some way to assume something other 
than sRGB at the OS level so that wide gamut monitors don't 
oversaturate colors. We, similarly, are working on using the monitor 
profile, not just the calibration data, in our Before and After window, 
so that (again) wide gamut monitors will not be oversaturated, even in 
After mode, as they are now.

>
> >>Photoshop does recognize the new profile. Here is the difference
> between a desktop and web image vs. photoshop/print.
>
> >>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...spydervs-1.jpg
>
> Link not valid, but it sounds like you are half way there. Are you
> calibrating to 2.2/6500? What other settings and adjustments are you
> using?

>2.2/6500, D50, Native White point

>Maybe this link to picture will work. It does when I hit Preview

>http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/mcennis3/spydervs-1.jpg

>Thanks for your help! I didn't expect this kind of problem with such 
an expensive monitor.

>I'm wondering if the wider gamut is the problem. They sent me a new 
one but it made no

>difference.

Yes, the oversaturation you are seeing in non-profiled locations is 
most likely caused by the wider gamut. You can prove this for yourself. 
Open the PDI test image in Photoshop, and do a "Convert to Profile" 
choosing your monitor profile as the output space. Then save a copy 
("PDI WideGamutRGB") and view THAT in a noncolor managed enviromment. 
This would be the equivalent of viewing in an app that converts for 
you. Should eliminate the problem, if what I see in your sample images 
is what I think I'm seeing. Usually its the yellows, greens, and Cyans 
that are most effected, but you seem to have a extra saturated red as 
well...

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision, Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com
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