Datacolor User to User Support Group.

This is ridiculous! Obviously its not the viewing condition or old 
eyes, female eyes....Give Martin more credit than that. The problem 
is not isolated to pfp2 & profiles, Regardless of what profile I use. 
I'm at -10to -15Y to correct skin tone. You're not alone Martin & 
it's not your eyes. The next thing someone will suggest is that if 
you have blue eyes you'll see a yellow cast! Lets get to a real 
solution to the problem.

This problem seemed to occur when I switched to XP from 2000pro. 
Could there be a driver conflict? I've removed & replaced DRIVERS 
multiple times without any luck. I'm concidering going back to 
win2000pro. before the cast started. You seem to have the same 
general problem as I. Keep looking for real solutions not distracting 
suggestions. 

In PFP2 the Epson 2100_2200 profile is at over +40B to correct Yellow 
cast & still needs +10B more. There must be a conflict in XP or 
driver?

Ken

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Carrington" 
<martinc@...> wrote:
>
> Hello David,
> 
> Thank you for your quick reply, appreciated! After reviewing the 
> original vs 'tweaked' prints, final corrections are somewhat less 
> than noted below. So -8 Gr, -6Y, +1 Brightness.
> 
> The viewing light was a daylight balanced desktop fluorescent (not 
at 
> home to check the exact color balance) - anyway, not incandescent.
> 
> Hmmm... like your suggestion of getting a young female to work with 
> in checking print colors but my 4 year old would only like strong 
> pink and purple hues, and my wife might object to anyone else!
> 
> Serously  though a good thought, I will check into it.
> 
> Profiled another couple of papers and using the same 'tweaks' both 
> profiled excellently, so I am not concerned even if I have to use 
> about the same corrections each time.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Martin
> 
> --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@ wrote:
> >
> > 
> > In a message dated 7/16/07 9:28:26 AM, martinc@ writes:
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi All,
> > > 
> > > Just aquired PrintfixPRO with the intent of profiling some 
papers
> > > that I have been none too happy colorwise with. Details as 
> follows:
> > > 
> > > 225 patch target
> > > 2200, OEM Inks
> > > Epson Premium Luster with PK Ink
> > > Epson Velvet Fine Art with MK Ink
> > > 
> > That all sounds reasonable, but you don't note your viewing 
> light... my bet 
> > is incandescent, given your result.
> > > 
> > > Monitor calibrated with Spider 2
> > > 
> > > I compared the results (with no profile tweaks, to the stock 
Epson
> > > profiles, and in the case of the EPL, with a custom profile 
from 
> Dry
> > > Creek.
> > > 
> > > The PrintfixPRO profiles were as good or better than all the 
> others,
> > > 
> > Thats good to hear... <G>
> > 
> > > however, all of the profiles (PrintFixPRO, Epson snd Dry Creek)
> > > resulted in prints with a slight yellow/green tint - this was 
the
> > > reason for purchasing PFPRo in the first place.
> > > 
> > Consistancy is a virtue. If they all have a similar tint, its 
> probably 
> > correct... for 5000k lighting.
> > > 
> > > Question: Seems at first that it is a monitor calibration issue,
> > > however, if I compare the monitor image to the actual scene (as 
I
> > > remember), it seems fairly close. Seems like all the profiles 
> have a
> > > green/yellow shift.
> > > 
> > > In the PF Pro profiles I corrected using the -12 Green, -8 
Yellow 
> and
> > > brightness +2. Resultant prints are to my eye now excellent.
> > > 
> > The plus two is a different issue, and about the right correction 
> for gloss 
> > media. The yellow and green adjustments seem a bit large, but 
thats 
> a personal 
> > call. Any chance you are over 50? Cataracts often effect print 
> viewing color 
> > before they affect screen color, unless you are using proprely 
> bright, hight 
> > CRI D50 proofing lights.
> > 
> > Well, thats what controls are for... but varify with young eyes 
> (ideally 
> > female, to rule out color blindness at the same time) to be sure 
> you aren't moving 
> > off into a world of printing bluer and bluer prints, as I've seen 
> some older 
> > photographers do.
> > > 
> > > Anyone else had this issue with the 2200 with OEM inks?
> > > 
> > Other than it not being ideal for B&W, no. Works fine.
> > 
> > >  Should I
> > > consider borrowing a different screen calibration device?
> > > 
> > Different brands of monitor calibrators tend to produce similar 
> results, as 
> > you saw with output profiles as well...
> > > 
> > > Any advice appreciated!
> > > 
> > Edit as you choose, and enjoy your match...
> > 
> > C. David Tobie
> > Product Technology Manager
> > ColorVision Business Unit
> > Datacolor Inc.
> > CDTobie@
> > www.colorvision.com
> > 
> > 
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