----- Original Message -----From: CDTobie@...Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:47 PMSubject: Re: [colorvision_group] PrintFx Pro Profile
In a message dated 10/23/07 12:22:48 PM, doug@... writes:
When I profile Kirkland Prem Glossy paper and my CIS ink set (Image Specialists R1800 inks) - the skins tones come out way too 'red' - everyone looks like they have a high degree of sunburn - I have played with the adv setting sliders but any adjustments I make - for example the red/cyan slider have very little effect until it has so much affect that the rest of the image is unacceptably dull red... has anyone experienced this and worked thru it - any tweaking advice would be appreciated.
I am puzzled why the profile would produce anything this far off the mark, I could see a slight over sat on a color but a total over saturation to this point is confusing ... I am also to the point of trying X-Rite's product unless I can get it resolved.
Actually, it would be great to see what some other device and/or profiling software would do. But without that info, here are some questions/comments:
Are you sure you are turning off color management in the driver when pritning? (basic question, but the most common issue)
Are you sure you are using the most appropriate media setting for your target printing, and the same setting again for your prints? (doesn't sound like your issue, but its possible with third party inks).
Are you calibrating your spectro on the white tile in its base, not on your paper? (When people make this mistake, their results could certainly look like yours).
Have you successfully profiled other papers? Other inks? If so your method (and spectro) are probably fine, and we could start narrowing it down to the one element thats throwing things off, like a flamingly whitened paper, or a problematic third party inkset, which doesn't line up with any of the media settings, etc...
With CIS issues, its sometimes necessary to move back to carts long enough to troubleshoot the issue..
C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
Digital Color Solutions
Datacolor
CDTobie@colorvision.com
www.spyder3.com
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Re: [colorvision_group] PrintFx Pro Profile
2007-10-23 by Doug Lenos
Thanks for reply.. I also have a 3800 that I
profile w/ same paper and Epson inks and it is pretty much spot on.
I will double check but I am certain that I am no
dbl-profiling - I have been working with this for almost 2 years now and have no
problem w/ the RR Ultra Satin paper on the R1800. Using the white tile- I
understand the black is not need anymore. I have paper setting on Epson Prem
Glossy as well. - all that being the case - I am a little at a loss as to what
settings to use to compensate - particularly on the Advanced tab...
I also produced a gray profile - but it is printing
w/ too much of a blue/green cast... I'll dig back in and double check
everything - let me ask this - if my extended grays profile is 'off' would it
affect the color profile that much?
;
I have a question: I would think that the product
would build a profile from the ink/paper combo and compensate for flamingly
white paper, ink sets, etc - as long as you are printing w/ the same settings /
ink/paper - you would get a good result .. is that not the case? is there a
limit to what PFP can profile to? does that make sense?
Thanks again to taking time to help - I really
appreciate it!