Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Color temp is important because that is what regulates how warm or cool the
image color is.  I am not sure what the range of options are under "Color
Tone," which is as far as I know the color temp setting, to be able to
decipher what "Warm 1"  indicates; but typical settings allow for one of
three options - 9600K which is cool bluish, 6500K which many select as their
standards and is on the cooler side of daylight, and 5500K which is daylight
but to my tastes is slightly too warm. I suspect that the "warm 1" setting
stands for 5500K.

 

 LCDs tend to be more contrasty and brighter than CRTs so the settings on
LCDs might need to be lowered to obtain a comparable level to a CRT's; but
that will depend to some degree on t he ambient light in the room as well as
what your calibration and profiling software requires or suggests.

 

I do not have the slightest idea what the "color weakness" setting stands
for or what range of settings it allows.  Play with it to determine what
looks and feels good to you as well as to see what it does.  As for the
gamma, it defines the luminescence value.  I will assume that 0.0 defines
the lower extreme of the gamma scale and 1.0 is the upper end of the scale
with the higher the gamma resulting in an overall shift of the gray standard
to the lighter side and a lower gamma producing a darker image.  CRTs
typically used the equivalent of a 1.9 gamma for Macs and 2.2 gamma for PCs
.  I am not sure how these standards translate for LCD displays or into the
scale used by your monitor.

 

Hope this helps; I will leave it to others to give more detailed and
accurate descriptions with respect to your scales and what they should be
set at.

 

From: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Boley
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:15 PM
To: colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [colorvision_group] Re: possible OT: LCD advice

 

Hi John, well, I did not explain myself well. I certainly did not pay
$2k for this monitor, I think only around $350 on sale. I meant it was
hard to swallow the idea of spending that much on a really good one,
which seems to be the prices, on something not quite as good as my old
CRTs.
I'm having trouble with the evolution in general, from CRTs, and was
wondering if my experiences were unique.

The settings on this thing right now are-
Contrast- 71
Brightness- 100
Color tone- Warm1
gamma- -0.1
color weakness custom2

lord knows what much of that means or how I even arrived at it. There
must be some kind of law that new products must not adhere to excepted
industry wide and well known settings nomenclature. Color temp? Why
have that?
It's probably just not a very good monitor, and will get relegated to
a lesser box.
Still, it doesn't make me feel real comfortable about the move to LCDs
in general...
Tyler

--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:colorvision_group%40yahoogroups.com> , "John Vitollo" <jvlist@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:colorvision_group%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tyler Boley" <trboley@>
wrote:
> > 
> > Anyway, the transition to this has not been good, and of course I read
> > elsewhere LCDs seem to be letting a lot of people down. I'm using
> > Spyder2Pro, and EyeOne photo and neither seem to really be able to get
> > this thing in line. I have to say the on screen controls make no sense
> > whatsoever, so that's a problem all it's own.
> > 
> > Anyway, the biggest problem for critical work is that neutrals
> > crossover all over the place, particularly in shadows......
> 
> No it's not OT at all...
> 
> Funny I had some odd behaviors with my Samsung 213T (not 214T) -
like saturated colored 
> shadows. The 213T died a while ago, cat clawed it, and at that time
I used the EyeOne, only had 
> the Spyder CRT at the time, the EyeOne helped for the most
part...but wasn't too impressed 
> with the EyeOne performance. My memory is foggy but I remember I
always shook my head at 
> the screwy Samsung monitor interface...that could be where it's
messing up.
> 
> If I remember correctly Steve M. has the 213T...has he been able to
give you any insight with the 
> Samsung interface?
> 
> You could just have a bad monitor. How does the default Samsung
monitor profile look?
> 
> What are your settings for gamma, brightness and color temp?
> 
> If you spent $2000.US for the Samsung...I probably would have
purchased an Apple monitor or 
> NEC instead.
> 
> Best,
> 
> John
>