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Re: [colorvision_group] Re: ATI Catalyst drivers and monitor profile being deactivated

2008-08-28 by CDTobie@aol.com


In a message dated 8/28/08 Thomas Adams writes:


Tobie,

Thank you for your reply and your advice.

>Some observations:

>When I open Spyder3Elite 3.0.4, I can choose Calibration Off. And
the profile reverts back to the windows color management default
profile. However, when I close Spyder3Elite 3.0.4 the profile then
automatically reverts back to 6500k profile I have created in
Spyder3Elite 3.0.4.


You are confusing the calibration data with the profile. When you choose "Calibration Off" its nulling out the calibration corrections to the videocard, not defaulting to a different ICC profile for the display. When you quit the application, a failsafe feature is reapplying the video corrections, so that your display is properly color managed.

Therefore in order to do this, I must leave the
program running/minimized. This is due to the Spyder3Utility I
believe, is this thinking correct?


Not exactly. What you are looking for is a way to leave the videocorrections off...

In Call of Duty 4, I get profiles switching back and fourth
(default and 6500k) when the game changes maps etc. I believe this
is during a vid(eo) restart in which case a gamma setting may be
introduced, so that makes sense with your previous explanation about
vLUT.


Ah, I see. This isn't profiles switching back and forth, its dualing banjos, with us setting the correct color corrections to the videocard, and them changing them, and us fixing them again, etc...

>However, I have noticed that if I have the Spyder3Elite 3.0.4
program running, and select Calibration OFF, that it prevents the
6500k profile from being loaded and I can open/close ATI CCC and
play CoD4 without any changes to the current profile.


What is happening is that you have the Utility off (since our main application is on) so it is not checking and correcting the video LUT calibration every minute. We are aware of this situation, and our next update will offer further options that will allow for what you want. But I have to say the same thing about games as I said earlier about video card utilities: they should not be messing with your LUTs, and you really shouldn't run such software on a serious color managed system. Not being a gamer, thats easy for me to say...

> I thought this
was strange which is why when I originally posted I requested the
addition of the Calibration on/off to the Spyder3Utility so that it
would in fact give the same ability as having the Spyder3Elite 3.0.4
application open and minimized. Apparently as written, the
application has the ability to override the utility and maintain the
default profile when a user does not wish to utilize a profile for a
color managed workflow.


Other than your continuing confusion between profiles and calibration data, yes, this is what we will be offering in the next dot upgrade.

C. David Tobie
WW Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor
CDTobie@datacolor.com
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3


I leave the Spyder3Utility running in taskbar 24/7. If I "kill" the
Spyder3Utility in the taskbar, I am able to play games, and run ATI
CCC without issue. I have had some more time to experiment and
would like to see the Calibration on/off added to Spyder3Utility as
well as the ability to load/unload/reset (to default from selected in
windows color management) profiles. This would allow easy access to
important functions. Allowing the user to select which profile is to
be used. While adding the ability to turn calibration off when a
profile for color managed workflow is not required and back on when
it is required.

I would really appreciate the added features, and I will be looking
forward to an update to the utility. I would even be willing to test
an alpha/beta if need be . Thank you for your time in this matter.





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