Datacolor User to User Support Group.

C. David Tobie
WW Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
Datacolor
CDTobie@...
www.datacolor.com/Spyder3

www.colorvision.com

I'm puzzled by your response - don't know if you genuinely find it 
interesting or if you are being snide. In any, case your comment 
ignores the point of why one should not dismiss the use of 
screensavers.  

What is the point of saying "all users on LCD displays"? The number 
of people using LCD displays is no proof that LCD monitors are 
capable of displaying a wide color gamut. Some LCDs are capable of 
wide/extended/enhanced gamut display, many are not.
Your comment suggests that you are not aware of the limited gamut 
display capabilities of many LCD monitors, but I assume you know more 
than your comment suggests.

I was about to buy one and LCD, then decided to wait until I managed 
to straighten out the calbration issues on my new Vista 64 system. I 
have been putting off buying an LCD until the gamut issue, input lag 
was addressed. (BTW the the 2nd xbitlabs article has an informative 
view on the validity of input lag)

This recent xbitlabs review starts out with a good primer on extended 
gamut displays and calibration.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/monitors/display/samsung-sm-xl24-
xl30.html 

Another, slightly out of date xbitlabs article. "Contemporary LCD 
Monitor Parameters: Objective and Subjective Analysis"
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/monitors/display/lcd-parameters.html

tftcentral.com is a good place to get info on the actual gamut of 
LCDs, and also color calibration options. 
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/




--- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, Cdtobie  wrote:
>
> That's interesting to hear: I'm seeing virtually all users on LCD  
> these days, especially those interested in wide gamut color.
> 
> C. D. Tobie
> WW Product Technology Mngr.
> Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> DataColor.com
> CDTobie@...
> 
> On Dec 12, 2008, at 5:33 PM, "madigan_bill"   
> wrote:
> 
> > Your comment about screensavers struck me as very strange. For 
one  
> > thing, many of us use CRT monitors  (most LCDs cannot produce 
the  
> > Adobe RGB gamut, much less the Pro Photo gamut).  As already 
noted,  
> > screen saver's logon feature can keep an unattended computer 
secure.  
> > Besides that, many use a screensaver just for the hell of it.
> >
> > I spent an hour late last night trying to figure out why my  
> > screensaver was not working. That the Spyder3 utility blocks  
> > operating system software is a bit surprising, if not 
disturbing.  
> > Datacolor could have added release notes warning that 
screensavers  
> > would be blocked (release notes are usually included for new 
drivers  
> > and applications.) If Datacolor was unaware of the issue, one has 
to  
> > wonder at how well the software is being tested.
> >
> > --- In colorvision_group@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/12/08 4:43:28 AM, wimvanleeuwen@ writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > After update to Spider3Elite V 3.0.6 my screensaver does not  
> > work anymore.
> > > > ___
> > > True, and we have other reports of that from Windows users.  
> > Screensavers
> > > don't actually "save" anything (in terms of energy, or screen  
> > life) with LCDs, so
> > > there is some question why one would use them, but we are 
looking  
> > into this.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have had no troubles with the preceeding versions.
> > > > ___
> > > Thats because they did not have as robust a set of Utility  
> > functions as the
> > > newer version. We are attempting to force Windows to use the  
> > calibration LUTs
> > > in all circumstances, which requires frequent checks on our 
part,  
> > which are
> > > being seen as activity, and stopping the screensaver from  
> > triggering.
> > >
> > > > Simple "exiting" the Spider3Utility in the systemtray 
restores  
> > normal
> > > > behaviour.
> > > > ___
> > > Right, as the activity is then ceased. But so are any checks 
that  
> > your color
> > > mangement is functioning properly...
> > >
> > > > I have temporarily switched off the spider3utility with  
> > "msconfig",
> > > > but there remain some questions.
> > > >
> > > > 1. am I the only one with this kind of problems?
> > > > ___
> > > No, we've had similar reports from other Windows users...
> > > >
> > > > 2. what does the spider3utility exactly do for me(i don't use
> > > > ambientlight monitoring).
> > > > ___
> > > Most importantly it attempts to keep your video corrections 
(an  
> > important
> > > part of your color calibration) in place... but it also covers  
> > certification and
> > > calibration reminder issues, and other housekeeping.
> > >
> > > > (system is XP with all updates/patches, last update this 
morning).
> > > > thanks in advance for your answer(s).
> > > > ___
> > > Not sure if this qualifies as an answer, but at least it sheds  
> > some light on
> > > the situation...
> > >
> > > C. David Tobie
> > > WW Product Technology Manager
> > > Digital Imaging & Home Theater
> > > Datacolor Inc.
> > > CDTobie@
> > > www.datacolor.com/spyder3
> > >
> >
> >
>



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