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Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Checking Spyder3

2009-08-17 by C D Tobie

On Aug 17, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Rollin wrote:

> A followup to my original post concerning Spyder3 and the Eizo  
> monitor.  In the past, I had received emails regarding similar posts  
> for people who basically said do not run both the Eizo Navigator and  
> the Spyder3 software together.  I recently got an off line email  
> from someone with a similar setup indicating the same.  Here is what  
> I have done on my system (Win XP 32 bit, Eizo CG222W, Dell FP1905,  
> one graphics card):
>
> 1. I uninstalled the Spyder3 Elite software package.
> 2. Reinstalled Eizo Color Navigator to ensure I was using a Spyder3  
> Colorimeter driver from them.
> 3. Unistalled the Windows Color Applet that let me assign different  
> profiles to the two monitors running off the same graphics card.
> 4. Reran the Eizo Color Navigator to ensure the profile was built  
> after all the changes.
> 5. Checked the Windows definition to ensure it was pointed to the  
> correct profile.
>
> I then used Photoshop to view some images I have printed using  
> softproof mode to look at the image on the monitor vs the one on  
> paper.  I found that the monitor image was too dark.  I was using  
> the suggested 80 cd/m2 brightness (at 6500K, 2.2 gamma).  My work  
> space is not really dark so I decided to bump the brightness to 100  
> cd/m2.  This seems to do the trick but only time will tell as I work  
> on images and use softproof to determine what it will look like  
> printed.  (For what is is worth, I use a matte paper with no  
> brightners and custom profiles built using Printfix Pro.)
>
> As for the second monitor off the single graphics card, I manually  
> tweak its settings using the hardware controls on it to get it to an  
> acceptable image.  It is a cheap flat panel and I use it only as the  
> overflow monitor to park PS tool pallets, etc. on when working on  
> the image.  Windows (at least through XP level) is not really great  
> at supporting multiple color managed monitors off a single card.  I  
> can either get a second graphics card or live with it as it is.
>
> At some point, I may try reinstalling Spyder3 Elite to see if I can  
> fine tune the Eizo but at the moment, I like what I have using the  
> colorimeter and the Eizo software.  Part of the problem may be  
> trying to control the order in what adjustments are applied to the  
> monitor when there are multiple programs involved.

You may be making this unduely complicated. On the Mac you can assign  
profiles at the OS level, and no utility to load the related LUTs is  
needed, so for Mac users, its definately easy to profile one display  
with Spyder3Elite or Pro, and then shut off the startup item if it  
concerns them. The problem under Windows is that a Utility of some  
kind must load the LUTs for each display, and the Eizo software won't  
do that for your second display (actually it may not do it for your  
Eizo either, in that it makes its LUT corrections internally in the  
display, not flashed to the LUT). Personally I cover this by  
calibrating both my Eizo and my Apple 30" Cinema display with  
Spyder3Elite, but it should be possible to mix the two packages is you  
prefer; or use ColorEyes on both displays with the Spyder3, to control  
the Eizo internally, and the other display at the videocard level.

C. David Tobie
Global Product Technology Manager
Digital Imaging & Home Theater
CDTobie@...

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