Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Thanks Dave. Yeh... they are untrained eyes! I just opened my new Spyder print 3 
SR box three days ago.
After printing many test images (Supplied by Datacolor) with the new profile, 
while tweaking the "Advanced Controls" I have managed to create a profile that 
prints very very close to what I see on screen without having to make 
adjustments in lightroom prior to printing proofs. That's all I asked for!

I have been printing high quality Card Stock which is smaller than letter sized 
paper. The targets were too small even with minimized borders so I used 
lightroom to crop and fill the entire card with the targets which then made it 
easier to measure. As far as I know, I cannot do this with spyder Print3 SR and 
a custom size paper.

I measured the targets printed through lightroom (no color management) and 
Print3 SR. I got the same readings. Although I once used Photoshop custom 
proofing exclusively to print all my images, I now prefer lightroom for the 
simplicity and time saving. Final test prints were through lightroom and I was 
ecstatic with the results! 


Thanks again for your quick response to my newbie needs. looking forward to many 
years of creating quality prints with my new system.

Wayne Barson
www.waynebarson.com





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From: David Miller <dm2363@...>
To: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 5:06:38 PM
Subject: Re: [datacolor_group] Ugly measurements from targets?

   

On Jul 30, 2010, at 5:35 PM, mageseeker52 wrote:

> Problem:
> Measured and printed target versions are not even remotely close?
> 
> System: Mac pro 17in with Snowleapord
> Monitor calibration 2.2 / 5800 with Spyder3elite: (recommended)
> Spyder3print SR:
> Printer: Epson 2200 OEM ink
> Paper: Moab Entrada Rag bright white 190GSM
> 
> Settings: Epson color controls - color adjustment set to "off" - Enhanced Matte 
>@ 1440 highspeed.
> High Quality Targets plus Grays
> everything cleaned after first reading.
> 
> I get the same readings regardless whether the targets are printed through 
>print3 SR, Photoshop CS4 or Lightroom 2. To the eye, all the printed targets 
>look the same. The measurements display as a muddied grey with a hint of color 
>tone with. Absolutely horrid!
> 
> I cannot find any information or direction on this matter.
> 
> Are the measured colors suppose to match the printed version? 
> 
> Watching datacolor video's on this topic shows both the printed and the 
>measured are simlar in appearance but the original is much brighter. Mine are 
>not even close?
> 

That sounds to me like you're doing everything "right"! The target prints
are supposed to be dark, and when you measure them (particularly on matte 
paper),
the measurements are going to look exactly as you've described.

If you look at the video (I made it...:-), I'm doing a test on an Epson R800 on
glossy paper, if I recall correctly. Glossy target prints are also dark, but
don't look (or measure) as "muddily" as matte. That's really the only 
difference.

If you'd like me to check your measurements and give them an "OK", I'll be glad 
to.
Send an email to me directly at dmiller@... and I'll tell you how
to locate and email me a copy of your measurement file.

(So: "horrid" here is just in the untrained eye of the beholder...:-) Target 
prints
are uncalibrated and they "should" be like that. They're not supposed to look 
pretty...:-)

Best regards,

David Miller
Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
Datacolor