Datacolor User to User Support Group.

Last night I made the suggested profiles(a dark & light) as you suggested and printed them out via PS. They came out as you suggested so I'll say thank you for that. The only thing I did different from what I had done previously was to turn BPC off(as suggested). Otherwise the settings and procedures you outlined was what I do normally. What did really surprise me was the sledge hammer effect(pushing the brightness slider-for this test) for such a small visible effect. With the changes I attempted on previous profiles, it's no wonder that I didn't notice any change to the print. The test prints I made showed a darkening/lightening effect of what appears to be the equivalent to a 1-1 1/2 stop, while I had expected it to be much more radical than the outcome. Since I now know this, I will again make a meaningful profile, but will be more aggressive with the controls. If this holds true, then I should expect to see the changes in the test print.   

--- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <kjrslr@...> wrote:
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> I will create a support ticket.
> I did get the email I told you about(from Datacolor to the person on the other forum). Like myself, he has made profiles before.
> Like this other person I have been printing for a number of years, printing and reading targets and creating profiles through various versions of both PS and LR, first using Manaco then PrintFix Pro. In other words, I've done this before.
> As far as creating the profile from the measurement set, I did step through as you described. How else would I get screen asking me to name the new profile(as I stated I did) and then tell me where it was.
> I also know how to set up PS and I always choose document and my working space, printer driver off, PS handles color, etc. All of this was stated in earlier posts. And yes, the profiles I created from the measurement set do show up in PS and that is where I picked the printer profile I used to print when I printed through CS4.
> But I will try what you suggest about creating a new exaggerated profile and print it through PS(even though I stated that I already did this).
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> --- In datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com, David Miller <dm2363@> wrote:
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> > If you have a properly printed target and you've measured it correctly, then everything will work as expected.
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> I'm fairly confidant I have done everything correctly as far as printing the 9 pages and reading them.
> Was done through S3P-where else could it be done from ;^). Epson CM was off. PS not even running.
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> > Photoshop printing configuration: (this is important) 
> > - Your RGB working space should be set to Adobe RGB or sRGB; never to your display profile or a printer profile.
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>  As previously stated, in PS I know enough to not pick a monitor or printing file. As stated I use the COLORSPACE of ProPhoto RGB.
> Even with this colorspace and printing using the tiff image I used in PS, with the profile created in S3P(and chosen from the drop down in PS) I should have seen some difference. As stated, there was no difference.
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> > - Print dialog: color management controls: should be set for Document (not Proof); Photoshop Manages Colors;
> > select the printer profile by name; use the Saturation intent; turn black point compensation off.
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> The only thing I did different from what you mention is that I had BPC on.
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> > - Printer driver: 
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> Epson CM is off, since PS manages color.
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> > > As a follow up, I noticed in another forum someone else was having a problem with creating profiles S3P, using a Epson 4000 and CS4. The person stated that he wrote to the DataColor tech specialist and was informed(via email) that there was an issue with S3P, the 4000 and CS4. I have requested a copy of that email to see what it states.
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> I now have a copy of that email. Even though it is not from you, I think you know what it says.
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> ...you're much better served by going directly to the Datacolor web site and asking the question there, yourself...:-)
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> Will do shortly after I do the aforemention test that you recommend.
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> > > I also did another iteration(today) of the profile I'm trying to alter, and printed it through the S3P software and as in the past it showed the changes I had made.
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> > Ok, that's good. But to point out something that you could be missing: you have to click the Next button to go to the
> > next screen (after the SpyderProof-View screen); and then name and save your profile (which, remember, is not a measurement file;
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> I did do this and stated the same.
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> > Whether you're printing from S3P or Photoshop: you need to have color management in the printer driver turned off the -same way-
> > it was when you printed the target.
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> Again, as previously stated, I have the Epson CM turned off. I believe it says "No Color Management".
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> > David Miller
> > Senior Software Developer, Digital Color Solutions
> > Datacolor
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